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Philosoraptor

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Meanwhile, at Maldon District Council.

 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Said months ago the local elections could be a bloodbath



Well, we'll have to wait and see but the main point in that is LOCAL. They don't actually mean very much in terms of changing policy. Each council are hamstrung by decisions taken at a national level and many councils going Labour would just lead to a Tory govt slashing council funding and heaping more costs onto them. Meanwhile the Tories will continue to have control over all the decisions that actually matter and that could make a difference, but instead will choose to enrich their mates.

It will not be a win.
 

PVA

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This Rwanda policy is literally the Family Guy meme

(CON +4)


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jimmyhillsfanclub

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Clearly the Rwanda plan is morally disgraceful, but IMHO it will never actually be implemented anyway....its just a crude (and nationally embarrassing) attempt to disrupt the current MO of the trafficking system where currently any asylum seeker/refugee/economic migrant just gets on dinghy, get a few hundreds meters off shore and then sets off the distress flare for prompt rescue and taxi to Kent.

All would be easily resolved with a processing centre in calais....but macron and Johnson will never agree with such a common sense plan
 

skybluetony176

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Clearly the Rwanda plan is morally disgraceful, but IMHO it will never actually be implemented anyway....its just a crude (and nationally embarrassing) attempt to disrupt the current MO of the trafficking system where currently any asylum seeker/refugee/economic migrant just gets on dinghy, get a few hundreds meters off shore and then sets off the distress flare for prompt rescue and taxi to Kent.

All would be easily resolved with a processing centre in calais....but macron and Johnson will never agree with such a common sense plan
Not sure Macron would have any say in it. Britain has a consulate in Calais. Set up an asylum centre in there and it’s essentially on British sovereign territory.
 

Ian1779

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Clearly the Rwanda plan is morally disgraceful, but IMHO it will never actually be implemented anyway....its just a crude (and nationally embarrassing) attempt to disrupt the current MO of the trafficking system where currently any asylum seeker/refugee/economic migrant just gets on dinghy, get a few hundreds meters off shore and then sets off the distress flare for prompt rescue and taxi to Kent.

All would be easily resolved with a processing centre in calais....but macron and Johnson will never agree with such a common sense plan
This government would never do anything meaningful to try and fix the root of the problem (a clear and accessible asylum process and shutting down the criminal gangs) as they would be forced to turn their attention to the other multitude of problems they have created with their policies.

Much easier to wheel out a preposterous policy like this every so often to get the flag-shaggers excited and give you a great set of paper headlines every time you need to deflect from a shitshow.
 
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This government would never do anything meaningful to try and fix the root of the problem (a clear and accessible asylum process and shutting down the criminal gangs) as they would be forced to turn their attention to the other multitude of problems they have created with their policies.

Much easier to wheel out a preposterous policy like this every so often to get the flag-shaggers excited and give you a great set of paper headlines every time you need to deflect from a shitshow.
They don't have the EU to blame all their failings on anymore so they have to rely on migrants and asylum seekers.
 

CCFCSteve

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From The Times, "There are fears that Gray’s report, said to be highly critical and damaging for the government, could be delayed until after the May local elections.".

What a surprise.

Neither here nor there though Dave. They’re in for a spanking in the locals either way. I’d imagine there will be more fines announced pre locals as well
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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The later you delay things, the less point there is in being accountable for past actions...
Ian Hislop said as much on HIGNFY.

Basically keep on saying it's too early to talk about until all the evidence is in. Gray report published/criminal report published, then when once that's done they say why do people keep bringing all this stuff up from so long ago and no-one cares anyomore so we should just move on.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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The later you delay things, the less point there is in being accountable for past actions...


I've recently been revisiting essays by Orwell and chomsky.....and its still the same as it ever was.

...so any of you still getting your Twitter kickers in a twist on a daily basis over petty infringements by no-mark actors in the side show that is domestic politics need to take a step back to focus....
 

PVA

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These idiots just love debasing themselves in front of the nation all in the name of Dear Leader.

Imagine actually going on live TV/radio and pretending to be stupid to defend a piece of human garbage like Johnson.

Admittedly some of them don't need to pretend to be stupid, but a lot of them are doing exactly that.

Have some dignity ffs.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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I've just had look at some of the offers......no offer to get to the lake district from here (Liverpool). Nearest I could see was Blackpool....and then hitch-hike.

Clever choice of promotional dates though......doesnt cover the school HT holidays or the 4-day Bank holiday weekend.
 

skybluetony176

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4 biggest energy companies come together to say that the government should be doing more to help people with their bills.

You know it’s bad when the greedy energy companies are saying that the government aren’t doing enough.
 

CCFCSteve

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World leading. Oh.




It’s how you want to present the stats though PVA. I look at the cumulative of the ‘Covid years’ together with projections as countries had waves at different times and therefore recoveries will happen at different times. For example Spain was still -5.7% after 2020 and 2021 so I would expect them to grow faster this year and next compared to us (-1.9%) and France (-1%).

I take the point that Johnson should be careful with his boasts (there’s no need !) but think he was basing on actual rather than forecasts… although was maybe being a little loose with the full picture truth…standard !

I can understand lower growth if it’s due to us being consumer driven economy in a high inflation period. What doesn’t quite make sense is why inflation wouldn’t remain higher and have a greater impact here than, in say Germany*, if they truly are weening themselves off Russian oil and gas ?! As they’re a high manufacturing intensive economy, in what is a high energy cost period, I’d be surprised if they’re not hit harder than forecast but a lot depends on Russian/Ukraine I guess

Edit - just heard guy from IMF saying Germany already revised down 1.7% since Jan so maybe already taken into consideration
 
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