Do you want to discuss boring politics? (247 Viewers)
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Sky Blue Harry H
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I know Boris is a clown, but I'm just watching that Angela Rayner on TV, and there is just something about her that I dislike, Not sure how much of a benchmark I am, but I'm really not sure I'd be putting her in front of the cameras so often, as I'm (partly) convinced that she won't help swing votes the Labour party's way. As I say, may just be me!
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Needs someone to call Johnson a twat however.
Sky Blue Pete
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Is it just misogyny?
Sky Blue Pete
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Wonder why people can’t see the competency of Yvette cooper
Sky Blue Pete
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Just a question? A strong confident woman often hackles people.
Because she doesn't speak with a plum in her mouth?
That seems to be a key criteria for a lot of voters.
Posh voice = they should be ruling me
Sky Blue Pete
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Can you unpack why?
shmmeee
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Bit of intellectual snobbery (when she was shad Ed I couldn’t stand having an education Secretary who couldn’t spell basic words), bit of not actually agreeing with her at times. She’s working class but doesn’t actually represent the working class from what I’ve seen, being more woke activist and less straight talking like Prescott who she’s often likened to.
Grendel
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like Priti Patel?
She is neither strong nor confident. Just a vile, hateful person.
skybluetony176
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Someone who’s introducing policies that would have kept her own parents out of the country with such glee. Think it’s pretty obvious why she’s disliked.
Sky Blue Pete
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Could be and could also be race with her. Could also be the fact that she enacts policies that one may find abhorrent
Sky Blue Pete
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I have to say i don’t see male female I see person but I am aware of other prejudices I bring to these discussions or lazy generalisations
fernandopartridge
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He's a wanker
Grendel
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He’s a really weird oddball
shmmeee
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Indeed: an intelligent, compassionate Tory.
Sky Blue Pete
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Yep that’s right
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Yep. if we saw & heard far less from nowhere man Starmer & his sidekicks Rayner & Reeves, and instead heard a lot more from the likes of Burnham, Cooper & Nandy.........then we may at least have some sort of opposition with a hint of credibility....
shmmeee
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She was sooo uninspiring in her leadership bid. Very managerial and very stuck in New Labour ways of thinking. Got very frustrated with her answer for low paid workers being “train for a high tech job” as if no one will ever be needed to clean toilets and sweep streets and we can all be web developers.
New Labours big mistake for me was thinking we could make the entire country Uni grads with uni grad wages instead of what they did which is devalue education and flood the market with worthless grads being overqualified for the same jobs.
Wow absolute zinger
As Tories go he's one of the better ones but sadly had no chance against Johnson. Far too sensible for the Tories.
Sky Blue Pete
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She shines in the current climate
Sky Blue Pete
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Did you vote for Corbyn and starmer?
shmmeee
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Yep. With Smith in between cos even though he was awful the damage Corbyn was doing was clear by then.
To be honest, Burnham aside, it’s been slim pickings for Labour leaders. And even he was far less impressive before he went off to become mayor.
shmmeee
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Sorry, no. I voted for Nandy with Starmer second.
shmmeee
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She does and would be a better managerial moderate candidate than Starmer. Get the feeling after losing in 2015 she’d had enough though.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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She is someone that is quite abrasive. Someone you definitely only want to deal with in small doses as it'd get tiresome. Doesn't necessarily come off as being professional all the time and no doubt some would be put off by the accent. I do quite like that fire in her belly though.
I can see why the party would pick her as deputy to the understated Starmer though. Mash the two together and you'd probably have a half decent leader.
skybluetony176
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We’re blaming what David Blunkett said in 2004 now.
He's absolutely lost the plot
skybluetony176
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The excellent Dan Hodges