Boddy (2 Viewers)

[SkyblueDad]

Do we actually own part of the cbs so with club shop and ticket office? Are we buying the stadium bit by bit?

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Who are “we”

 

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[higgs]

Who are “we”

We are ccfc

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[MusicDating]

My prediction is there will be more questions than answers.

What happened next?...

 

[SBT]

It's been nearly 2 years now since the Warwick University "plan" was announced, what's been happening in that time? Where is the outline planning permission? Where is the planning permission? Why are you continuing to try and take people for mugs David?

But surely Warwick University would never agree to have their name associated with yet another CCFC stadium pipe dream project? (At least that’s what I was told)

 

[pusbccfc]

Wonder if we'll own the safe standing we are looking at?

 

[WestEndAgro]

You surely aren't serious that Boddy said that this evening?

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It's exactly what he said, the push for top six is my own take on it.

 

[shmmeee]

It's exactly what he said, the push for top six is my own take on it.

So he just said the aim is to stay up? Not the top six thing?

 

[WestEndAgro]

So he just said the aim is to stay up? Not the top six thing?

Correct

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It's been nearly 2 years now since the Warwick University "plan" was announced, what's been happening in that time? Where is the outline planning permission? Where is the planning permission? Why are you continuing to try and take people for mugs David?

That's not just fernando talking to some other bloke called David

 

[shmmeee]

Some others:

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

I agree this seasons priority was staying up, first season fully back after Covid. Crowd was back. But no way should our ambition should
Be just to stay up. I don’t expect top 6 - but at least maintain our current position.

 

[rob9872]

Why’s Jesus weeping? What was the question?

Reminds me of a bad joke ..


Jesus goes into the joinery and says "did you call me, dad?" Joseph replies "no son, I've just hit my thumb with a hammer"

Sorry all

 

[skybluesam66]

playing with words
Of course the number 1 priority is staying up
Number 2 is top half, and the target is probably the play offs

 

[rob9872]

playing with words
Of course the number 1 priority is staying up
Number 2 is top half, and the target is probably the play offs

After staying up it has to be play offs not top half. Nothing wrong with top half and it's a great achievement but means fek all in reality. Would be worthwhile if they put money for each finishing place like in the Premier league.

 

[dadgad]

Simmo: You had her behind Bus Station.
Boddy: No I didn’t
Simmo: You told us!
Boddy: It were top half only.

 

[clint van damme]

It's not sensible at all. Anyone with an iota of sense knows that's an idiotic and concerning comment to make after the season we've just had.

Managing expectations is one thing, kicking them to death and throwing them in the canal in a sack weighed down with house bricks is a bit extreme.

 

[Otis]

Sensible thing to have said would have been that they aim to build on this season and try and maintain a top half finish and possible push for playoff contention.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

The big plus about our season/general progress, is that if we were competing with a Bristol City or Birmingham to attract a player (particularly loans, but also other players with ambition) then you would think that we would be instantly more appealing.

 

[CovBrummie94]

Interesting a potential European signing flew over to watch the Bournemouth game and toured around the stadium. Shit game for them to watch!

Unless they were a CB

 

[Briles]

Technically every teams first target is to stay up

 

[Evo1883]

Aren't early bird extended every year?

Don't think they were last year

 

[skybluesam66]

Don't think they were last year

No that was the tier 1 elite restriction

 

[Evo1883]

Oh right, so we are not looking to improve or maintain our position from this season?

Come on platt , most people on this forum have already resigned us to being the 22/23 barnsley .

 

[rob9872]

I think it's more throwing caution to damper the expectations a little. If he says we want a top 10 team then he knows that he should provide a top 10 budget which is beyond us (finances almost always dictate). Where we've done well is in management getting everything out of the players and the recruitment to deliver above budget expectations which in all reality will be a bottom 10 budget again next season. I'm sure they say different things privately to publicly.

 

[Evo1883]

I think it's more throwing caution to damper the expectations a little. If he says we want a top 10 team then he knows that he should provide a top 10 budget which is beyond us (finances almost always dictate). Where we've done well is in management getting everything out of the players and the recruitment to deliver above budget expectations which in all reality will be a bottom 10 budget again next season. I'm sure they say different things privately to publicly.

Doesnt take a rocket scientist to realise this is what's at play

 

[Deleted member 5849]

What would be ridiculous is for Robins to come under pressure because his superiors have said the playoffs are the target, while not giving him playoff level budget and players.

 

[SmithyCCFC]

I’m sure boddy is just tempering expectations. We’ve already shown signs of intent by signing O’hare and Hamer to new deals and now Fadz has extended. Have faith. PUSB

 

[Hobo]

Considering nobody knows who is coming or going this summer he would be stupid to say anything other than staying up is the goal.

 

[SBAndy]

Early bird extended by 2 weeks.

 

[Frank Sidebottom]

Surely he didn’t say the target next season is to avoid relegation


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Maybe he still thinks we're going to win the play offs this season.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Wonder if we'll own the safe standing we are looking at?

How would that work, next season isn't it segregated from the concourse, maybe we are buying the ground in stages lol as a previous poster mentions we own the club shop and ticket office. Wasp only need the Main stand really anyway!

 

[oldskyblue58]

We actually own the club shop and ticket office, first time we have exclusively owned any part of the stadium.

I am confused by this comment from Boddy

- CCFC have a 10 year agreement to be at the stadium why would you want to "own" the retail premises for longer than that if you have no right to be elsewhere in the stadium if lease not renewed
- the intention is to move to our own stadium (at least 10 years away from now apparently but isn't that 12+ years from announcing the project?) so why would you "own" part of the stadium. Does that perhaps give more away than Boddy intended?
- wasps don't own the freehold so the best they could offer is a sub lease isn't it. They wouldn't however want to be carving bits of the asset off whilst they are refinancing surely?
- wasps surely wouldn't lock themselves in to something that could be redundant but not in their control in 8 years time when main lease expires, or be forced to buy it back
- it may be rent free, or peppercorn ground rent rather than an annual commercial rent

I suspect that CCFC have 365 day pa sub lease of the retail premises, which would mean that wasps have no day to day operational involvement in those retail premises areas. I would also think that it ties in with the length of the main lease or agreement. I doubt it means that CCFC could do major interior or exterior changes without the landlords approval. I would think that there is still service charge contributions to be made and all running costs of that retail area are CCFC liability. CCFC have control of that small area - like formal ownership would bring

But owning part of the stadium long term? not sure i see that

 

[oldskyblue58]

In terms of next seasons ambitions, i have a feeling that Boddy got the emphasis in what he said wrong

What he should have said is probably more like " first we need to make sure we stay in the Championship but of course we want to push on from this season, build and to finish higher is the aim "

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

I am confused by this comment from Boddy

- CCFC have a 10 year agreement to be at the stadium why would you want to "own" the retail premises for longer than that
- the intention is to move to our own stadium (at least 10 years away from now apparently but isn't that 12+ years from announcing the project?) so why would you "own" part of the stadium. Does that perhaps give more away than Boddy intended?
- wasps don't own the freehold so the best they could offer is a sub lease isn't it. They wouldn't however want to be carving bits of the asset off whilst they are refinancing surely?
- wasps surely wouldn't lock themselves in to something that could be redundant but not in their control in 8 years time when main lease expires, or be forced to buy it back
- it may be rent free, or peppercorn ground rent rather than an annual commercial rent

I suspect that CCFC have 365 day pa sub lease of the retail premises, which would mean that wasps have no day to day operational involvement in those retail premises areas. I would also think that it ties in with the length of the main lease. I doubt it means that CCFC could do major interior or exterior changes without the landlords approval. I would think that there is still service charge contributions to be made and all running costs of that retail area are CCFC liability. CCFC have control of that small area - like formal ownership would bring

But owning part of the stadium long term? not sure i see that

Maybe they have bought it for next to nothing as part of the return to the Ricoh deal, what have they to lose.

 

[shmmeee]

In terms of next seasons ambitions, i have a feeling that Boddy got the emphasis in what he said wrong

Probably should have said is probably more like " first we need to make sure we stay in the Championship but of course we want to push on from this season, build and to finish higher is the aim "

That’s basically what he did say from the looks of the tweet.