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[Bugsy]

 

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[SkyBlueSoul]

Completely agree. Even yesterday someone suggested his pass completion is only high because he does Sammy clingan type passes, which is complete nonsense. He always looks for the forward pass first, and rarely goes back or sidewards, only doing so when he has no options or movement infront of him.

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This off the club website seems to back that up too

 

[Frostie]

This off the club website seems to back that up too

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Exactly. He's literally in the Top 5% of the league for forward passes.

 

[WestEndAgro]

He's a fuckin Baller

 

[SkyBlueSoul]

 

[Frostie]

BUt He oNly PaSses bAcKwaRdS...

 

[shmmeee]

BUt He oNly PaSses bAcKwaRdS...

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Hamer though! 20% progressive passes and close to 50 passes a game!

 

[Sick Boy]

Still can’t believe there were actually some going on about Kelly going straight back into the side to replace Sheaf hahah.

 

[djr8369]

He has been doing it all season. His numbers for winning the ball back & progressing it are exceptional, literally among the best in the league. I've always maintained people just didn't understand the type of player he is.

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We’re fortunate to have two CM with a great range of passing who are also adept at breaking up opposition attacks. That’s probably been vital to our success this season.

It’s a shame many had their opinion of Sheaf clouded by the fact he gave the ball away sitting deep a few times last season because he clearly had bags of quality as well.

 

[Frostie]

Hamer though! 20% progressive passes and close to 50 passes a game!

Fewer passes & quite a bit less accurate than Sheaf but a bit more progressive.
They're a great combination.

That graphic also shows what most think about Allen too, simple & effective but nowhere near as influential.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Out of all the players at the club I would say I see the most potential in him

 

[Frostie]

Such a shame Robins was forced into signing him against his will...

 

[Hutch11]

Won't play once Kelly is fully fit

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

I do struggle with any “data” which has Hyam as the third best centre back in the league

 

[fatso]

Imagine how good he will be next season now he's settled in this league! And we have Eccles as back up too.

 

[Frostie]

I do struggle with any “data” which has Hyam as the third best centre back in the league

That's using his model which weights certain characteristics higher than others to try & find a specific type of Centre Back. Because of Hyam's role for us he does a lot of progressing the ball so scores highly.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

BUt He oNly PaSses bAcKwaRdS...

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Grimes is doing a pass every minute?

 

[Evo1883]

I do struggle with any “data” which has Hyam as the third best centre back in the league

One thing that is certain , is that he's better than several posters on here make him out to be

 

[Frostie]

Grimes is doing a pass every minute?

Actually even more than that now. He averages 100.2 passes per game. Swansea as a team average over 600.

 

[fernandopartridge]

One thing that is certain , is that he's better than several posters on here make him out to be

I mean tbf he'd been written off by cc84 so anybody with as different opinion was nailed on to be proven right

 

[stupot07]

That's using his model which weights certain characteristics higher than others to try & find a specific type of Centre Back. Because of Hyam's role for us he does a lot of progressing the ball so scores highly.

To be fair you need a mix in a team, he should have done 2 categories - best progressive centre backs, and the best defensive centre backs

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[Frostie]

To be fair you need a mix in a team, he should have done 2 categories - best progressive centre backs, and the best defensive centre backs

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[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

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So Ostigard and JCS really should be top targets in the summer

 

[stupot07]

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Thanks, No McFadzean or Rose. I think you're right in your earlier post that its the role Hyam plays, being right sided centre back and your natural pass is forward and wide to the wingback.


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[Esoterica]

That's using his model which weights certain characteristics higher than others to try & find a specific type of Centre Back. Because of Hyam's role for us he does a lot of progressing the ball so scores highly.

Unless I misunderstood it, the flaw in his recent rankings is CBs playing in 2 vs a back 3. The wide CBs in a 3 have quite a different role, especially in possession, and will have more emphasis on ball carrying and progressive passing so weighting certain characteristics higher than others gives an unfair advantage to those playing left or right in a 3.

 

[Frostie]

Unless I misunderstood it, the flaw in his recent rankings is CBs playing in 2 vs a back 3. The wide CBs in a 3 have quite a different role, especially in possession, and will have more emphasis on ball carrying and progressive passing so weighting certain characteristics higher than others gives an unfair advantage to those playing left or right in a 3.

Yeah absolutely, although hardly anyone in the Championship seems to play with a back 4 much now. Your assessment is spot on (as usual) though. It's funny because last season Fadz as the centre of the 3 played more progressive passes than the wider pair which is unusual but part of our style of play at the time. That's been flipped on its head since & obviously the centre of the 3 is unlikely to do much at all in the way of progressive runs. As I alluded to earlier, Hyam comes out of it well as he's given so much opportunity to do so by our tactics.

I wouldn't necessarily call it a flaw as such though as he specifically states that is the profile of player he's looking for. If he wanted he could tweak the weightings to give more credence to aerial duels etc. to alter the profile.

 

[Saddlebrains]

 

[shmmeee]

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Extra impressive when you consider he’s only played about three quarters of games compared to Lewis Travis.

 

[SBAndy]

Think it’s probably season over for Sheaf. Just seen him wearing an air boot.

 

[lordy_87]

Coventry City's Ben Sheaf has ruptured ankle ligaments

Coventry City's Ben Sheaf has ruptured ankle ligaments

Coventry City injury news from CoventryLive after the Sky Blues slipped to a 2-1 CBS Arena defeat to Huddersfield Town

www.coventrytelegraph.net

 

[SheafIsGod]

Could be a blessing in disguise as it might make teams think twice about signing him.

 

[Frostie]

 

[Liquid Gold]

Was like it last season too. People just decided they didn’t like him and it’s harder to tell how good a player he is on tv.

 

[CDK]

Think he will be with us after O'Hare and hamer have moved on and been replaced,as he is becoming the complete midfielder.

 

[SkyblueDad]

Vital cog in our first team it’s up to Robins to recruit players of similar ilk to go with him. I would like him to be a little more goal minded and have more pots at goal, I’m sure there are goals there.