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[Philosoraptor]

I guess that's the threshold for the right to revolution reached.

Sri Lankan troops ordered to open fire on looters and vandals as protests continue

Troops are on the streets after a night of anti-government unrest fuelled by an economic crisis.

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[PVA]

Keep going. You actually I think believe people will look at specifics - no they won’t they see one privileged twat with a cake and another privileged twat with a Biryani no doubt paid on expenses

That’s what the average non Parisian voter sees - keep going it’s a great deflection - all Starmer does is whine he had something to eat and that’s all people are seeing from him - I doubt he’s going hungry

I can see now why you think Dan Hodges is 'excellent'.

 

[Grendel]

I can see now why you think Dan Hodges is 'excellent'.

And I can see why as you live your life via twitter you actually have zero idea how people think

 

[PVA]

And I can see why as you live your life via twitter you actually have zero idea how people think

Says the man with nearly 70,000 posts on a forum

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Surely, next day delivery by 9.00am would have been cheaper.

The day we become a Republic can't come soon enough.

I'm no royalist, but be careful what you wish for.

At the moment we have an individual who would never use their power because they don't have a mandate from the public. No imagine what someone who did have could do, especially considering the standard of leaders we choose whereby the only thing that seems to matter is personality and charisma. Giving a person like that a huge amoun of power - not for me.

 

[Northants Sky Blue]

 

[PVA]

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Yeah I think that's the right's argument in a nutshell!

 

[Grendel]

Says the man with nearly 70,000 posts on a forum

Which again is irrelevant because all you offer is twitter links and sound bytes. You have zero political knowledge you have zero insight - it’s a binary thought process and the day spent linking irrelevant people to support that view

Its too simplistic

 

[PVA]

Which again is irrelevant because all you offer is twitter links and sound bytes. You have zero political knowledge you have zero insight - it’s a binary thought process and the day spent linking irrelevant people to support that view

Its too simplistic

You're right, how can I compete with such political insight as 'no one cares about parties' - which is still headline news, what, 6 months later?

 

[Grendel]

The reality is financially and lifestyle wise Starmer is no threat to me at all. He’s going to support middle class and class aspiration - he doesn’t even have a real labour chancellor to keep some genuine ideals of the party

I think he’s as useless and pointless as Ian Duncan Smith as a leader - he really the more I look at him is absolutely hopeless. He’s got zero ability to engage with people and unlike Blair has the acting ability from an extra in Crossroads

He really made an error in judgement by isolating all those with labour ideology at heart

I admit I can’t stand John McDonnell and his ideology but in an ocean of sameness on both sides he’s a real conviction politician and an intelligent orator. Frankly if I was Starmer I’d stop whining about no where to eat my evening dinner and sack Reeves (she surely is Norman Lamonts love child) and had McDonnell his job back

Labour then would win by a landslide

 

[Grendel]

You're right, how can I compete with such political insight as 'no one cares about parties' - which is still headline news, what, 6 months later?

And the polls show a 1% gap in the polls - Tory papers are happy with those headlines - have a little think about that

You do realise headline news of such a non event in a time of economic crises when an opposition need to put forward an actual agenda regarding real issues isn’t exactly a bad thing for a government with a 10% inflation

Let’s think about this - Birthday cake row vs chronic inflation - mmm think I’ll keep partygate vs beer gate going for a while longer

 

[PVA]

And the polls show a 1% gap in the polls - Tory papers are happy with those headlines - have a little think about that

If only there was some recent elections to go on.

 

[Philosoraptor]

I'm no royalist, but be careful what you wish for.

At the moment we have an individual who would never use their power because they don't have a mandate from the public. No imagine what someone who did have could do, especially considering the standard of leaders we choose whereby the only thing that seems to matter is personality and charisma. Giving a person like that a huge amoun of power - not for me.

I'd say let Liz live in a council estate for 6 months and see the change in style & personality.

 

[Grendel]

If only there was some recent elections to go on.

There aren’t

Oh you mean those that showed no labour increase in their vote with a pathetic turnout

Let’s educate you again

2019 - 1,300 Tory seats lost in council elections

2019 - 80 seat majority for Tories in general election

Can you explain this please. Genuinely what’s your view On this and how will that equate abs be relevant in 2024?

 

[Philosoraptor]

Then again, the people from council estates are hard-working, unlike Liz who has been gifted stuff every step of the way through life.

 

[Grendel]

Then again, the people from council estates are hard-working, unlike Liz who has been gifted stuff every step of the way through life.

David Davis I assume you mean?

 

[Philosoraptor]

Always exceptions to the rule and given what was said about him in the Brexit negotiations.

 

[Grendel]

Always exceptions to the rule and given what was said about him in the Brexit negotiations.

Wasnt Gove from a council house?

 

[Philosoraptor]

And a Labour Party member...

 

[Ian1779]

The reality is financially and lifestyle wise Starmer is no threat to me at all. He’s going to support middle class and class aspiration - he doesn’t even have a real labour chancellor to keep some genuine ideals of the party

I think he’s as useless and pointless as Ian Duncan Smith as a leader - he really the more I look at him is absolutely hopeless. He’s got zero ability to engage with people and unlike Blair has the acting ability from an extra in Crossroads

He really made an error in judgement by isolating all those with labour ideology at heart

I admit I can’t stand John McDonnell and his ideology but in an ocean of sameness on both sides he’s a real conviction politician and an intelligent orator. Frankly if I was Starmer I’d stop whining about no where to eat my evening dinner and sack Reeves (she surely is Norman Lamonts love child) and had McDonnell his job back

Labour then would win by a landslide

Starmer’s final undoing will not be his actions at ‘ Beergate’ but if he continues his ambivalent response to the cost of living crisis.

 

[Grendel]

Starmer’s final undoing will not be his actions at ‘ Beergate’ but if he continues his ambivalent response to the cost of living crisis.

He’s an idiot - tories will try and some point to get him to make some vague comment not ruling out an EU return.

 

[skybluetony176]

Doing the same things expecting different results. It’s austerity by stealth. Didn’t work last time so won’t work this time. All austerity does is stifle growth. They seriously can’t have forgotten this.

Queen's Speech: We can't spend our way out of trouble, says PM

Boris Johnson says planned new laws will boost living standards - but critics say families need help now.

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Smarmer definitely gives off korma vibes-one up from vegan slop in my book

 

[Grendel]

Doing the same things expecting different results. It’s austerity by stealth. Didn’t work last time so won’t work this time. All austerity does is stifle growth. They seriously can’t have forgotten this.

Queen's Speech: We can't spend our way out of trouble, says PM

Boris Johnson says planned new laws will boost living standards - but critics say families need help now.

www.bbc.co.uk

Who do you think will be on the retained list Tony?

 

[David O'Day]

Dan Hodges is having a proper Grenners like breakdown on twitter. He's flailing about that old weirdo Grenners did whenever Biamou scored a goal.

We're about 72 hours from him calling for Kenny Jackett to be made PM

Predicting grenners reply "IRA GERRY ADAMS CIDER WHYCOULDINEVERGET A JOB"

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Dan Hodges is having a proper Grenners like breakdown on twitter. He's flailing about that old weirdo Grenners did whenever Biamou scored a goal.

We're about 72 hours from him calling for Kenny Jackett to be made PM

Predicting grenners reply "IRA GERRY ADAMS CIDER WHYCOULDINEVERGET A JOB"

May as well do the honours

 

[shmmeee]

Apparently it was a wind up post. Although it’s become hard to tell the last couple of days as he’s become a parody of himself.

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Just a prank bro!

You got us bro! Totally thought your were a moron for a minute there!

 

[David O'Day]

Doing the same things expecting different results. It’s austerity by stealth. Didn’t work last time so won’t work this time. All austerity does is stifle growth. They seriously can’t have forgotten this.

Queen's Speech: We can't spend our way out of trouble, says PM

Boris Johnson says planned new laws will boost living standards - but critics say families need help now.

www.bbc.co.uk

You can also spend your way out of trouble if you are a Sovereign economy with your own central bank. Basic economic multipliers show you this. It's basic right economic illiteracy. FFS Keynes settled this a long time ago.

Anyone remember when grenners big economic idea was basically internal devaluation. People took great delight in point out just show much that would fuck up an economy that already has a trade imbalance by making British exports even more expensive.

 

[shmmeee]

Keep going. You actually I think believe people will look at specifics - no they won’t they see one privileged twat with a cake and another privileged twat with a Biryani no doubt paid on expenses

That’s what the average non Parisian voter sees - keep going it’s a great deflection - all Starmer does is whine he had something to eat and that’s all people are seeing from him - I doubt he’s going hungry

You think political parties can expense food to who exactly?

And what the French have to do with anything I’m unsure but assuming you were going for partisan, you’re wrong. It’s mostly Tory voters who think he broke the rules and then only 50% of them.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You think political parties can expense food to who exactly?

And what the French have to do with anything I’m unsure but assuming you were going for partisan, you’re wrong. It’s mostly Tory voters who think he broke the rules and then only 50% of them.

Think it’s a new soundbite

‘Parisian elites’

So snobby towards the working man they’re snorting snails

 

[David O'Day]

You think political parties can expense food to who exactly?

And what the French have to do with anything I’m unsure but assuming you were going for partisan, you’re wrong. It’s mostly Tory voters who think he broke the rules and then only 50% of them.

Is that weirdo trying to pretend the food would of been on parliamentary expenses? Wow, thick c**t

 

[fernandopartridge]

You can also spend your way out of trouble if you are a Sovereign economy with your own central bank. Basic economic multipliers show you this. It's basic right economic illiteracy. FFS Keynes settled this a long time ago.

Anyone remember when grenners big economic idea was basically internal devaluation. People took great delight in point out just show much that would fuck up an economy that already has a trade imbalance by making British exports even more expensive.

Tell Rachel Reeves that as she appears to be more closely aligned to the orthodoxy behind what Johnson has said

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labour.org.uk

Far too much time spent talking about taxes paying for spending, another dead end street these galaxy brains are going down

 

[Ian1779]

Tell Rachel Reeves that as she appears to be more closely aligned to the orthodoxy behind what Johnson has said

Press Releases – The Labour Party

labour.org.uk

Far too much time spent talking about taxes paying for spending, another dead end street these galaxy brains are going down

She’s fucking useless.

 

[David O'Day]

Tell Rachel Reeves that as she appears to be more closely aligned to the orthodoxy behind what Johnson has said

Press Releases – The Labour Party

labour.org.uk

Far too much time spent talking about taxes paying for spending, another dead end street these galaxy brains are going down

you really didn't understand it did you?

She talks and compares the difference between increasing tax take by raising taxes vs growing the economy. You have to look to increase the tax take as that is macroeconomics 101. She is saying that instead of increasing taxes which will depress demand in what is now a demand slump we should be looking at pro growth policies that increase demand and thus the tax take. This and fairer taxes for society and business.

Also to think Rachel Reeves the former BoE QE specialist as anti expansionary economics is just wrong.

 

[David O'Day]

She’s fucking useless.

explain what she is wrong about there please?

she's very good and a major reason why Labour are according to polling seen as more economically sound than the tories