Cost of Living Updates (2 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

This is an expensive way of not fundamentally solving the problem. Unless we want to pay out an extra £10 billion every year

 

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[shmmeee]

This is an expensive way of not fundamentally solving the problem. Unless we want to pay out an extra £10 billion every year

We’re talking about a govenrment currently railing against their own Brexit deal they signed less than two years ago. Long term thinking is not in their wheelhouse.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

We’re talking about a govenrment currently railing against their own Brexit deal they signed less than two years ago. Long term thinking is not in their wheelhouse.

For that money we could build nuclear plants that would eliminate our fossil fuel use overnight and give us time for a longer term replacement. Cutting everyone a cheque every year is like buying in Deliveroo every night

 

[Ian1779]

They're awful. Regardless of what the discounts are, I'm sure you pay more for those and only a way of paying for those who can't manage their money. Make your supplier remove it.

My mum is on one, and trying to encourage her to come off it. But if she moves off it and on to one of the shitty tariffs being offered will she end up being worse off
She can manage a DD tariff but being on her own is it the lesser of two evils?

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

Big difference is housing costs.

The Quote i put up is for 1 working adult many houses have 2 working in them .Which is what the pensioners quote is for a married couple.

 

[shmmeee]

The Quote i put up is for 1 working adult many houses have 2 working in them .Which is what the pensioners quote is for a married couple.

Many do, many also have kids to feed. Housing costs and kids take a significant chunk of take home pay. What you earn matters less for QoL than what you have to spend after essentials.

 

[SAJ]

Many do, many also have kids to feed. Housing costs and kids take a significant chunk of take home pay. What you earn matters less for QoL than what you have to spend after essentials.

So you think pensioners never had all those things to pay.

 

[Ian1779]

So you think pensioners never had all those things to pay.

Proportionally it wasn’t the same.

 

[shmmeee]

So you think pensioners never had all those things to pay.

What? That’s not the point. If you’re looking to support peoples incomes right now for the cost of living crisis that is happening now, what someone’s economic position was decades ago is irrelevant.

Working age people will on average be hit harder by this stuff than pensioners so that’s where most of the support should go. It’s not rocket science.

 

[SAJ]

What? That’s not the point. If you’re looking to support peoples incomes right now for the cost of living crisis that is happening now, what someone’s economic position was decades ago is irrelevant.

Working age people will on average be hit harder by this stuff than pensioners so that’s where most of the support should go. It’s not rocket science.

No it’s not Pensioner living on state pension currently get £141.85 a week. Come the winter they are likely to be in their house, not necessarily owned by them for far more hours a day than somebody who goes to work. They are also far more likely to feel the cold than somebody 30-50 years their junior. They will be making the decision daily heat or eat.

 

[SBAndy]

No it’s not Pensioner living on state pension currently get £141.85 a week. Come the winter they are likely to be in their house, not necessarily owned by them for far more hours a day than somebody who goes to work. They are also far more likely to feel the cold than somebody 30-50 years their junior. They will be making the decision daily heat or eat.

If they’re living solely on state pension they’d get Pension Credit. If they rent, they’d get Housing Benefit. They also get the Winter Fuel Allowance.

 

[dutchman]

If they’re living solely on state pension they’d get Pension Credit.

You're mistaken, the earnings limit for Pension Credit (£182.60) is lower than the current full State Pension (£185.15).

It is also means-tested so an estimated million pensioners who would otherwise qualify don't receive it for one reason or another.

 

[shmmeee]

No it’s not Pensioner living on state pension currently get £141.85 a week. Come the winter they are likely to be in their house, not necessarily owned by them for far more hours a day than somebody who goes to work. They are also far more likely to feel the cold than somebody 30-50 years their junior. They will be making the decision daily heat or eat.

That’s why they get the winter fuel allowance. This is support for the current cost of living crisis.

I’ll go to the stats again, the age range most in poverty is kids, even the worst off age range of pensioners is about the same as people in their 30s and 40s:

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

What? That’s not the point. If you’re looking to support peoples incomes right now for the cost of living crisis that is happening now, what someone’s economic position was decades ago is irrelevant.

Working age people will on average be hit harder by this stuff than pensioners so that’s where most of the support should go. It’s not rocket science.

I would like to say in 2021 3.6 million pensioners and just over 3.million working age people claimed more than 1 benefit,the impression I get is you think the workers should have preference over pensioners I think both should get equal standing.
P.S I have no axe to grind I do not claim.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I would like to say in 2021 3.6 million pensioners and just over 3.million working age people claimed more than 1 benefit,the impression I get is you think the workers should have preference over pensioners I think both should get equal standing.
P.S I have no axe to grind I do not claim.

If working people end up in financial ruin that then has huge consequences for children and pensioners. So yes, the state will focus its efforts there first.