SlowerThanPlatt
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I’m getting Dale Evans vibes
Derby points deduction (5 Viewers)
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no_loyalty
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I think you are right, Mike Ashley has offered to go 50/50 with him and he has turned it down.
fernandopartridge
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I agree. His company's website looks OK and they're advertising a large number of jobs, but hard to see how he's got anything like the means to take on Derby. It's only a piece of software and it's basically not much more than a startup
KenilworthSkyBlue
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I very much doubt he'll be using his own money.
fernandopartridge
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I know, but who's money is it and who would entrust somebody with no experience in football to be in charge of their investment? I reckon the bloke is a grifter
KenilworthSkyBlue
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I think those are the questions that strangely aren't being asked.
It's very much feeling that it's out of the pan and into the fire. Clubs in their situation often attract the type. Hopefully for the fans sake that's not the case and he's genuine.
But they've been here before where takeovers have fallen through at the last minute.
Terry Gibson's perm
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They would probably better off with Ashley at least you know what you get with him.
fernandopartridge
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They would absolutely be better off with Ashley
Sky Blue Harry H
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Ashley will cream off any surpluses that Derby accrue, if he applies the same model as when at Newcastle.
SlowerThanPlatt
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all the excuses in the book
fernandopartridge
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Well that'd be a better position than they're in currently, to actually make a surplus might be a start
fernandopartridge
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The bank holidays of course weren't known about in advanceall the excuses in the book
all the excuses in the book 
stay_up_skyblues
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All serious businessmen conducting multi million pound deals correspond with stakeholders via Twitter. It is all starting to look a bit Evans/Dinsha isn’t it.
SlowerThanPlatt
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Well I never seen this one coming
Terry Gibson's perm
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They must be seriously in trouble if it doesn’t go through as they shouldn’t be allowed to start the season unless Ashley can rush it through.
skybluesam66
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certainly no different to the Bury situation
Grendel
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It’s totally different
skybluesam66
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One team in deep financial trouble having already suffered a points deduction for administration and after massive over spending, and the only real potential backer pulled out - the other was Bury
Gynnsthetonic
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Let's hope Ashley can do a deal, would hate a team of Derby's stature to fold.
Danceswithhorses
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.....and all this time, Quantuma are racking up fees.
A cynical man (who me ?) would maybe think it's in Quantuma's interests for this process to go on for a long time
Seriously though, it begs the question, how was this clown, with his history of pulling out at Preston and Derby (now twice), given the 'preferred bidder' status by Quantuma ?
Ashley is an odius man, but you know he has the money.
According to the BBC Radio Derby guy, last month's wages, which Kirchner said he had paid, were not paid by him.
A cynical man (who me ?) would maybe think it's in Quantuma's interests for this process to go on for a long time
Seriously though, it begs the question, how was this clown, with his history of pulling out at Preston and Derby (now twice), given the 'preferred bidder' status by Quantuma ?
Ashley is an odius man, but you know he has the money.
According to the BBC Radio Derby guy, last month's wages, which Kirchner said he had paid, were not paid by him.
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bawtryneal
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BBC reporting the deal has collapsed
Step in Mike Ashley to get a bargain albeit with a 15 point deduction next season.
Step in Mike Ashley to get a bargain albeit with a 15 point deduction next season.
mark82
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Will the EFL give enough time to go down that route?
KenilworthSkyBlue
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There's a meeting today apparently so we'll soon find out.
Grendel
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No it’s not as the Bury owners intent was to try and force the club out and get rid of Gigg lane - he didn’t want the football club to carry on and held it hostage
Danceswithhorses
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They should throw the book at Derby...i mean how many deadlines have they missed, then had extended, and then missed etc etc ?
All this on top of their recent financial shenanigans.
But they won't, because Derby is a 'big club', and in reality, the EFL only really care about 'big clubs', and will let the smaller, less well supported clubs, go to the wall.
fernandopartridge
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Let him without sin cast the first stone, not sure the club can be penalised for the actions of a prospective new owner
KenilworthSkyBlue
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Why? It's within the EFL's interest to keep extending those deadlines whilst there are parties still interested.
We've received a huge amount of leniency from the EFL in the past so we're in no position to be asking them to throw the book at Derby.
Philosoraptor
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Dated 17th May and said he would fund the club from next week.
Looks like he has a lack of funds.
Derby County: Chris Kirchner exchanges contracts with club administrators
Derby County's administrators exchange contracts for the sale of the club with Chris Kirchner.
www.bbc.co.uk
Legia Sky Blue
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From the outside looking in it has seemed a little strange that the Administrators would have gone with Kirchner given his previous at Preston, over Ashley who clearly has the finances to buy the club. Are Administrators answerable to any authority for their decision making, or do they just coin it come what may?
On a selfish CCFC note this could be a setback in offloading Waghorn as a return to Derby would probably be one of his preferred options.
On a selfish CCFC note this could be a setback in offloading Waghorn as a return to Derby would probably be one of his preferred options.
alexccfc99
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Kirchner was and is a complete chancer
He tried to buy Preston and was apparently laughed off the negotiating table
MusicDating
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I think the administrators were appointed by Mel Morris, so he'll be advising them to do a deal with whoever gets him the best deal. I suspect Ashley would play harderball on the stadium more than the yank would.
Plus as Evo says, they've been paid handsomely for dragging this out over last 9 months...
alexccfc99
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Apparently Rooney paid May’s wages thinking this would all be sorted out
AOM
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Out of interest, what do these people have to gain by coming out saying they're going to buy/save football clubs even though it's inevitably going to fall through?
Is it just to generate some interest in themselves? Can't see it being very good for their image.
I think Dale Evans was a bit of a different case as there was the impression he might have had some issues
Is it just to generate some interest in themselves? Can't see it being very good for their image.
I think Dale Evans was a bit of a different case as there was the impression he might have had some issues