USSR invades Ukraine. (17 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The UN should’ve been involved in this side of it by now. Not necessarily to protect us from inflationary increases, more places in Africa that are going to starve. An absolute disgrace

Putin’s crap forces could have been squished in short order. It’s a choice to let him carry on while wearing Ukraine badges

 

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[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Tanks from the '60s heading into battle

 

[Mcbean]

Need ships to protect Odesa !

 

[PVA]

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That's a Russian conscript issued bulletproof vest

 

[PVA]

An interesting read:

 

[RegTheDonk]

The UN should’ve been involved in this side of it by now. Not necessarily to protect us from inflationary increases, more places in Africa that are going to starve. An absolute disgrace

Perhaps this tactic will actually get the UN to recognise this as a humanitarian crisis, which I heard somewhere would be something Russia would want to aviod. As they can veto decisions, don't know how that would play out. If there was some way of getting UN peacekeepers in the area, would that either calm or esculate things to some kind of conclusion?

 

[Kieranp96]

Been destroying crop stores on farms as well - those they couldn't load onto rail and send back to Russia.
Food supplies and food inflation becoming a weapon.
Here dairy products up over 60%, meat products well over 50%. Supermarkets have been rationing some products for weeks now.

Have they? I haven’t noticed

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Putin has now stepped up the rhetoric against western arms .
If Ukraine ask for more weaponry despite the threat of more Russian attacks in the west of the country including Kiev, we should honour it. Anything less is a total betrayal.

 

[LastGarrison]

Two captured Brits sentences to death in a Russian court.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-61726733

 

[SBT]

Putin’s crap forces could have been squished in short order. It’s a choice to let him carry on while wearing Ukraine badges

By the UN?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

By the UN?

Yes.

 

[SBT]

Yes.

Them and whose army?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Them and whose army?

The world’s minus Russia and China

 

[Grendel]

The world’s minus Russia and China

World war 3 then. Would be several counties allied to Russia if that happened

 

[SBT]

The world’s minus Russia and China

I’d prefer not being vaporised, and I’m guessing the UN members do too.

 

[Evo1883]

Not sure global food shortages and poverty are a price worth paying for a country like Ukraine ? so ultimately at some point decisions will have to be made

Real talk

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I’d prefer not being vaporised, and I’m guessing the UN members do too.

Then really the UN isn’t fit for purpose if it’s prepared to see the alternative that is unfolding.

 

[SBT]

Then really the UN isn’t fit for purpose if it’s prepared to see the alternative that is unfolding.

The alternative you’re suggesting is global (quite possibly) nuclear war - how is that better for the world?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The alternative you’re suggesting is global (quite possibly) nuclear war - how is that better for the world?

That is if you believe that Putin will nuke the world over Ukraine and that people will obey the orders of a humiliated leader. Do you?

 

[Evo1883]

At some point , when people are struggling to pay for food and their bills are even more ridiculous .. they will become angry at their leaders for continuing to plow billions into a foreign war thats helping cause it .. we arent at that point yet .. it's what I'm getting at really.

 

[Kieranp96]

Two captured Brits sentences to death in a Russian court.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-61726733

Maybe a massive escalation of war, they’re pow and Ukrainian citizens not Mercenaries so I can see the uk doing something to prevent these deaths.

 

[SBT]

That is if you believe that Putin will nuke the world over Ukraine and that people will obey the orders of a humiliated leader. Do you?

I think it’s a very real (not to mention completely terrifying) possibility, and most world leaders seem to agree. Why else would they not have simply steamed in to “squish Russia in short order”?

If your answer is ‘energy supplies’, why wouldn’t we just invade Russia, overthrow Putin and control it ourselves like we do elsewhere in the world?

 

[Grendel]

That is if you believe that Putin will nuke the world over Ukraine and that people will obey the orders of a humiliated leader. Do you?

The likely occurrence is a world war of military conflict and Russia have many allies across many continents

Ukraine isn’t worth that effort

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The likely occurrence is a world war of military conflict and Russia have many allies across many continents

Ukraine isn’t worth that effort

What is the line he needs to cross, in your opinion?

 

[Evo1883]

What is the line he needs to cross, in your opinion?

Why don't we look at negotiating a peace deal before anymore lines get crossed

 

[skybluetony176]

Maybe a massive escalation of war, they’re pow and Ukrainian citizens not Mercenaries so I can see the uk doing something to prevent these deaths.

Hopefully Boris doesn’t intervene. He’ll somehow manage to get their sentence increased going by past achievements in helping brits locked up by rogue states.

 

[skybluetony176]

The likely occurrence is a world war of military conflict and Russia have many allies across many continents

Ukraine isn’t worth that effort

OK Neville.

 

[Evo1883]

Hopefully Boris doesn’t intervene. He’ll somehow manage to get their sentence increased going by past achievements in helping brits locked up by rogue states.

I hope somebody has a word with old nadine about encouraging people to get involved

 

[David O'Day]

That is if you believe that Putin will nuke the world over Ukraine and that people will obey the orders of a humiliated leader. Do you?

Any talk of global war is fucking stupid. Russia's only powerful half friend is China and they are not going to get involved in a war in the Ukraine.

 

[skybluetony176]

Any talk of global war is fucking stupid. Russia's only powerful half friend is China and they are not going to get involved in a war in the Ukraine.

Exactly, they’re enjoying the benefits of being the world’s factory too much to get involved.

Putin is playing a game of chicken hoping the west blink first. Now is not the time to come over all Neville Chamberlain like. It’s unfortunate for Ukraine but Putin can’t come out of this with anything resembling a tangible victory. Even if that means the current hardships get worse and last longer.

 

[shmmeee]

At some point , when people are struggling to pay for food and their bills are even more ridiculous .. they will become angry at their leaders for continuing to plow billions into a foreign war thats helping cause it .. we arent at that point yet .. it's what I'm getting at really.

Not sure how handing Russia massive amounts of grain supply will help that exactly. You’re proposing we add grain to oil and gas as tools of an authoritarian and frankly dangerous regime.

 

[Evo1883]

Not sure how handing Russia massive amounts of grain supply will help that exactly. You’re proposing we add grain to oil and gas as tools of an authoritarian and frankly dangerous regime.

I'm proposing we negotiate , or atleast attempt to negotiate a peace deal as a collective group of powerful nations.

I believe I've said this all along actually .

 

[David O'Day]

Exactly, they’re enjoying the benefits of being the world’s factory too much to get involved.

Putin is playing a game of chicken hoping the west blink first. Now is not the time to come over all Neville Chamberlain like. It’s unfortunate for Ukraine but Putin can’t come out of this with anything resembling a tangible victory. Even if that means the current hardships get worse and last longer.

Exactly, China may not like the west but their economic model needs the west

 

[shmmeee]

I'm proposing we negotiate , or atleast attempt to negotiate a peace deal as a collective group of powerful nations.

I believe I've said this all along actually .

What do you think has been happening the last few months?

While the west won’t step in or step up arms deliveries because they’re scared of Russian nukes, Russia has no reason to give up the chance to add another piece of leverage over the world.

 

[Evo1883]

What do you think has been happening the last few months?

While the west won’t step in or step up arms deliveries because they’re scared of Russian nukes, Russia has no reason to give up the chance to add another piece of leverage over the world.

Doesn't feel like we've pushed too hard for peace in all honesty ( as a collective )

And we most definitely won't be sending in our own troops