America (3 Viewers)

[David O'Day]

Yes. Trump appointed judges as one of his last act as President who are very much inclined to follow this path.

to be fair wasn't it Thomas who indicated that?

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

if they can't remove the filibuster they will

your cutting incite told us Biden wouldn't win at all

Erm I predicted a bigger win than the one he actually achieved

 

[David O'Day]

Erm I predicted a bigger win than the one he actually achieved

ok, you spent a year telling us trump would win like the chino wearing nostradamus you are

just because you may have flipped right at the end doesn't change that

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

ok, you spent a year telling us trump would win like the chino wearing nostradamus you are

just because you may have flipped right at the end doesn't change that

In the time before COVID yes and the polling pointed towards that combined with Trump’s incumbent status and a perception of having done ok on the economy. As it was Trump handled the pandemic appallingly but even then it came down to a relatively small number of votes in quite a few states. Without COVID Trump gets a second term.

You did say though that Biden would expand and stack the court. He hasn’t and instead Democratic inaction has condemned the country to being a regressive shithole

 

[robbiekeane]

That’s the consequence of the Democrats putting zero effort in to obstruct new appointments to the SC in contrast to how the Republicans did it in Obama’s last term.

They’ll be ruling in favour of the right for decades

The fact that the Supreme Court justices are appointed for life and not even democratically elected is ridiculous. How is it different to a ruling monarchy?

As for todays ruling…Handmaids tail

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The fact that the Supreme Court justices are appointed for life and not even democratically elected is ridiculous. How is it different to a ruling monarchy?

As for todays ruling…Handmaids tail

Even appointment by an elected president is one up from appointment by birth.

As you were

 

[robbiekeane]

Even appointment by an elected president is one up from appointment by birth.

As you were

Scraping the barrel a bit there to be fair.

Not sure if you’d interpreted that as a reference to a previous discussion around the British monarchy but if you did, it wasnt. The British monarchy is nothing more than a figurehead and doesn’t make any actual decisions. This bunch of crooks just a decision they will remove abortion rights for 36 million people. Mostly male crooks that is

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Scraping the barrel a bit there to be fair.

Not sure if you’d interpreted that as a reference to a previous discussion around the British monarchy but if you did, it wasnt. The British monarchy is nothing more than a figurehead and doesn’t make any actual decisions. This bunch of crooks just a decision they will remove abortion rights for 36 million people. Mostly male crooks that is

Mostly white male christian ones too

 

[Otis]

I wonder what they’ll go after next? Contraception? Gay rights?

Creationism taught in every school and the theory of evolution taken off the curriculum.

Or at least, creationism taught as the actual truth and the theory of evolution just being nothing other than a crackpot theory.

 

[Grendel]

Do you understand the implications of how judges are appointed in the US?

My point is in general Obama had zero impact on the culture and approach in the US despite having big approval ratings and support - he didnt even campaign on gun control and made zero attempt at legislation

 

[clint van damme]

My point is in general Obama had zero impact on the culture and approach in the US despite having big approval ratings and support - he didnt even campaign on gun control and made zero attempt at legislation

He tried to get a couple of pieces of legislation through but failed.
Mass shootings and gun sales increased significantly on his watch.

Trump got a minor law change through which I think related to converting weapons into automatics but I don't think much has really been done by anyone since Clinton's automatic weapons ban which has now expired .

I just don't think there's enough significant will to change.

You look at the knife crime debates on here, everyone argues about the best way to solve it but not one person advocates for the carrying of knives.
The mind set towards guns over there is something else.

 

[robbiekeane]

My point is in general Obama had zero impact on the culture and approach in the US despite having big approval ratings and support - he didnt even campaign on gun control and made zero attempt at legislation

Yeah nothing apart from Obamacare being the biggest change to the healthcare system over there in 50 odd years, granting health coverage to an additional 20+ million people.

Apart from that yeh zero impact really

 

[clint van damme]

Yeah nothing apart from Obamacare being the biggest change to the healthcare system over there in 50 odd years, granting health coverage to an additional 20+ million people.

Apart from that yeh zero impact really

Isn't he referring just to guns? That's how I read it.

 

[robbiekeane]

Isn't he referring just to guns? That's how I read it.

No. Sickboy referenced the abortion news, hertz said it was the legacy of trump unfortunately, Grendel then went on a random Obama bash

 

[stupot07]

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Absolute disgusting ideology from a pro life campaigner in Texas, amongst other things basically said victims of rape are removing key evidence if they have a termination.

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[Great_Expectations]

There won't stop there that's for sure. Judge Thomas in his concurring opinion mentioned overturning Griswold (which is the right to contraception), Obergefell (the right to same-sex marriage) and Lawrence (which covers gay sex).

What else can you say about this, other than it’s fucking mental.

More unrest in the US to come.

 

[Liquid Gold]

It's both the most liberal and conservative place in the western world.

I don't think it'll happen but it's ripe for balkanisation.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

There won't stop there that's for sure. Judge Thomas in his concurring opinion mentioned overturning Griswold (which is the right to contraception), Obergefell (the right to same-sex marriage) and Lawrence (which covers gay sex).

He did however leave out interracial marriage.

He is also in an interracial marriage.

Not a hypocritical c**t at all of course.

 

[Liquid Gold]

No abortions, snipers at sports events.

This dystopia is absurd.

 

[tisza]

A country where the 2 extremes make the most noise and noise seems to equal influence.
If there was ever a time for a 3rd centrist party it's now.
Silent majority getting swamped and ignored.

 

[Liquid Gold]

A country where the 2 extremes make the most noise and noise seems to equal influence.
If there was ever a time for a 3rd centrist party it's now.
Silent majority getting swamped and ignored.

I disagree. What influence does the left have in actual politics no matter how noisy they are?

They don't even have proper healthcare.

 

[clint van damme]

 

[Grendel]

Yeah nothing apart from Obamacare being the biggest change to the healthcare system over there in 50 odd years, granting health coverage to an additional 20+ million people.

Apart from that yeh zero impact really

I was referring to general culture regarding guns

 

[Grendel]

No. Sickboy referenced the abortion news, hertz said it was the legacy of trump unfortunately, Grendel then went on a random Obama bash

No I didn’t trump was a product of dissatisfaction in US politics and dissolution that the symbol for change bought very little change at all

Obama care has its critics

The Disappointing Affordable Care Act

The ACA has largely failed. Premiums and deductibles increased while choices declined. Exchange enrollment is 60% below expectations although Medicaid enrollment surged. President Trump's policies have been a dramatic improvement, but there are far better ways to spend $1.8T over the next decade.

www.forbes.com

 

[skybluetony176]

America is starting to make Saudi Arabia look forward thinking.

 

[chiefdave]

No abortions, snipers at sports events.
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Why do they need snipers at football games? Imagine if the stewards at the CBS were armed!

 

[robbiekeane]

No I didn’t trump was a product of dissatisfaction in US politics and dissolution that the symbol for change bought very little change at all

Obama care has its critics

The Disappointing Affordable Care Act

The ACA has largely failed. Premiums and deductibles increased while choices declined. Exchange enrollment is 60% below expectations although Medicaid enrollment surged. President Trump's policies have been a dramatic improvement, but there are far better ways to spend $1.8T over the next decade.

www.forbes.com

You’re better than that

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

A country where the 2 extremes make the most noise and noise seems to equal influence.
If there was ever a time for a 3rd centrist party it's now.
Silent majority getting swamped and ignored.

What? There’s a far right and a centre right

 

[CCFCSteve]

Why do they need snipers at football games? Imagine if the stewards at the CBS were armed!

Soon nip those end of season pitch invasions in the bud

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What else can you say about this, other than it’s fucking mental.

More unrest in the US to come.

Massive unrest civil disobedience and significant numbers of arrests I think it states where it’s made illegal

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

America is starting to make Saudi Arabia look forward thinking.

They will laugh at USA and the west moaning about them detaining Muslims or removing women the right to drive. And probably quite rightly too

 

[Sick Boy]

Unsurprising, there are some states that have/are implementing a complete ban, including in cases of rape or incest.
It's a really weird country.

 

[Northants Sky Blue]

It's both the most liberal and conservative place in the western world.

I don't think it'll happen but it's ripe for balkanisation.

Could be the trigger for elements in the South and Midwest to agitate for this.

Trump/Bannon's legacy

 

[Happy_Martian]

What? There’s a far right and a centre right

American politics is so far gone, they really need an enema and try to start again from scratch. If you look at Sens. Manchin and Sinema, they're closer to the right than their declared centrist left beliefs are.

And I'm surprised that in a sue prevalent society like the US, that Judge's Gorsuch, Kavanagh and Comey Barrett aren't all being challenged for declaring at their confirmation hearings that they wouldn't overturn Roe. Seeing as the hearings were in the Senate, a legal body, their statements could be deemed perjury.

 

[djr8369]

What? There’s a far right and a centre right

But half the commentariat have spent the last few years screeching about wokeism and Marxism?