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Northants Sky Blue said:
  • 1pm - Javid making a statement to the House after PMQ's 🍿
  • 3pm - PM spafferwaffling as he's unable to play to a gallery at liaison committee 🍿
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I shall actually watch PMQs, as I'm intrigued to find out how many Tories call him a cock this time, as well as the opposition!

My, what a sad life I lead:LOL:
 
Otis

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I shall actually watch PMQs, as I'm intrigued to find out how many Tories call him a cock this time, as well as the opposition!

My, what a sad life I lead:LOL:
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I know it's not particularly good for the country at times, but you can't get better television viewing than Tories infighting in the House of Commons.

I may well go back and give this another watch.

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skybluetony176

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15now. No confidence letters going in too. Apparently at the point that there’s more letters in than there is MP’s to vote to keep Boris in Graham Brady goes and see’s Boris and demands his resignation. So there might be the possibility (if that’s right) that the 1922 committee might not have to change the rules on a no confidence vote. Also rumours that there’s going to be some crossing the floor this afternoon.
 
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skybluetony176 said:
15now. No confidence letters going in too. Apparently at the point that there’s more letters in than there is MP’s to vote to keep Boris in Graham Brady goes and see’s Boris and demands his resignation. So there might be the possibility (if that’s right) that the 1922 committee might not have to change the rules on a no confidence vote. Also rumours that there’s going to be some crossing the floor this afternoon.
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It does maybe show they jumped too early on the confidence vote, although I don't think anybody expected as many to vote against him as did first time around, anyway.
 
fernandopartridge

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Otis said:
Okay, so what are the lies there? Is it nothing like approaching a decade?

I honestly don't know.
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It is a flat out lie to say more people are voting for Labour than at any point during the last decade, it is easily verifiable to say they are not. The two most recent by-elections for example:

Labour got less votes in Tiverton than they did in 2019, 2017, 2015

Wakefield they got less votes than they did in 2019, 2017 and 2015

Granted there was a lower turnout because it was a by-election, but given that they keep talking about how they're turning round the 2019 catastrophe, surely you could at least aim to get a similar number of people to actually bother to vote for you, in the face of a very unpopular government and a cost of living squeeze.
 
shmmeee

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Otis said:
Okay, so what are the lies there? Is it nothing like approaching a decade?

I honestly don't know.
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It’s not true on any level. Even if she meant polling rather than “go to the polls”, her best excuse is she doesn’t know what a decade is. But it’s fairly harmless “only Lib Dems can win here” type stuff. Not quite up there with sexual assault and partying through lockdown IMHO.
 
Otis

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fernandopartridge said:
It is a flat out lie to say more people are voting for Labour than at any point during the last decade, it is easily verifiable to say they are not. The two most recent by-elections for example:

Labour got less votes in Tiverton than they did in 2019, 2017, 2015

Wakefield they got less votes than they did in 2019, 2017 and 2015

Granted there was a lower turnout because it was a by-election, but given that they keep talking about how they're turning round the 2019 catastrophe, surely you could at least aim to get a similar number of people to actually bother to vote for you, in the face of a very unpopular government and a cost of living squeeze.
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Cheers.

No idea why they come out with this stuff that can be easily disproved then. Grrrr.
 
TomRad85

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fernandopartridge said:
It is a flat out lie to say more people are voting for Labour than at any point during the last decade, it is easily verifiable to say they are not. The two most recent by-elections for example:

Labour got less votes in Tiverton than they did in 2019, 2017, 2015

Wakefield they got less votes than they did in 2019, 2017 and 2015

Granted there was a lower turnout because it was a by-election, but given that they keep talking about how they're turning round the 2019 catastrophe, surely you could at least aim to get a similar number of people to actually bother to vote for you, in the face of a very unpopular government and a cost of living squeeze.
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It's obvious just from reading around that way more people were actively into what Corbyn stood for than what Starmer stands for (whatever that is.)
If Labour is to somehow win a general election I'd be amazed if Starms achieves more votes than Corbs, its more likely he'd win from previous Tory voters not voting at all due to the Boris circus. Also those voters wouldn't just turn up and vote out of fear of the country going 'left' because let's face it Starmer isn't left really.

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fernandopartridge

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shmmeee said:
It’s not true on any level. Even if she meant polling rather than “go to the polls”, her best excuse is she doesn’t know what a decade is. But it’s fairly harmless “only Lib Dems can win here” type stuff. Not quite up there with sexual assault and partying through lockdown IMHO.
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Yes but she needs to be prepared for the level of scrutiny (not afforded to the incumbent party) that any statement she makes will get. It's naive to make statements that are so easily dismissed imo.
 
shmmeee

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NGL “charge of the lightweight brigade” is a good line.

Johnson is as bad as I’ve ever seen a politician.
 
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And in among all this, a former City goalkeeper gets a mention!
 
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