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Brighton Sky Blue

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He's definitely shown poor judgement on a number of occasions, but that's not news, he has life long form for that, just look at his personal life before becoming PM.

But I wish people would detail which of his policies are so abhorrent.
Just saying he's a c**t isn't enough to oust him from office as he's the same c**t who won a landside election victory, you can't say we wernt warned.

There were plenty who warned but they were ignored and dismissed. It was seen as folly to predict the end of the Union by 2030-it might be here in 2023. Johnson, leader of the Conservative and Unionist Party, has done more to put the country itself at risk than any external force ever has.

If you want specifics, look no further than what's happening in Northern Ireland as a consequence of his fudged Brexit
 

PVA

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He's definitely shown poor judgement on a number of occasions, but that's not news, he has life long form for that, just look at his personal life before becoming PM.

But I wish people would detail which of his policies are so abhorrent.
Just saying he's a c**t isn't enough to oust him from office as he's the same c**t who won a landside election victory, you can't say we wernt warned.

Tens of thousands of people died because of his incompetence and negligence.

Is that abhorrent enough for you?
 

JAM See

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Holy shit, I actually agree in part with grendull. There was definitely a seismic shift in honesty and integrity in British politics under Blair and Campbell and in my mind it laid the foundations for another under Boris, Cummings and basically anyone allied/connected to Boris since 2016. But to suggest that Campbell is worse is overstretching. No one is worse than the current PM, cabinet and all the other sycophants employed by them as advisers etc. they’re all Campbell supercharged, turbocharged and NOS injected.
Erm, Orgreave and the Falklands.

I'm not saying that nasty politics started under Thatcher, but it definitely was going on before the introduction of the minimum wage, the Good Friday agreement, eleven years of uninterrupted economic growth and the smaller class sizes that Blair oversaw.
 
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You see, I'd be all for tax and spend, if it wasn't spending on useless PPE, contracts for mates, Tree Houses, and flights of fancy.

The problem with Johnson is he says whatever comes into his head as a vote winner, with no idea of how to do it, and no particular motivation to try, either. He's lazy,workshy, and doesn't actually do coherent policy to help the country (even if disagreeing with him) - he does soundbytes.
 

PVA

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You see, I'd be all for tax and spend, if it wasn't spending on useless PPE, contracts for mates, Tree Houses, and flights of fancy.

The problem with Johnson is he says whatever comes into his head as a vote winner, with no idea of how to do it, and no particular motivation to try, either. He's lazy,workshy, and doesn't actually do coherent policy to help the country (even if disagreeing with him) - he does soundbytes.

His whole tenure has been soundbites. Absolutely no substance.
 

fatso

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Tens of thousands of people died because of his incompetence and negligence.

Is that abhorrent enough for you?
I think you'll find we had a fantastic vaccine roll out, and an unprecedented response to the pandemic when compared to much of the rest of Europe, even down to the nightingale facilities that thankfully wernt called upon, the deaths were tragic, but inevitable, that's the nature of a pandemic. but hey, don't let that temper your hyperbole.

There's much he got wrong during his tenure, but the response to the pandemic wasn't one of them (imo)
 
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I think you'll find we had a fantastic vaccine roll out, and an unprecedented response to the pandemic when compared to much of the rest of Europe, even down to the nightingale facilities that thankfully wernt called upon, the deaths were tragic, but inevitable, that's the nature of a pandemic. but hey, don't let that temper your hyperbole.
You were anti fucking vaccine you mentalist!
 

PVA

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I think you'll find we had a fantastic vaccine roll out, and an unprecedented response to the pandemic when compared to much of the rest of Europe, even down to the nightingale facilities that thankfully wernt called upon, the deaths were tragic, but inevitable, that's the nature of a pandemic. but hey, don't let that temper your hyperbole.

There's much he got wrong during his tenure, but the response to the pandemic wasn't one of them (imo)

It's not hyperbole.

His (in)actions cost tens of thousands of lives.
 

fatso

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You were anti fucking vaccine you mentalist!
I chose not to get a vaccine as I'm a healthy guy with no underlying conditions, that's my personal choice. Boris told us all to get it. And yet his detractors say he got the pandemic response wrong! Was he wrong to say get vaccinated?
 

skybluetony176

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Listening to him in that liaisons committee earlier was hilarious. He doesn’t even know how many sitting MP’s he has. He claimed that there was no shortage of people to replace those who had resigned only for the maths to be explained to him that there wasn’t. Since then more have resigned and it sounds like only 60 Tories haven’t yet put a letter of no confidence in. He literally can’t form a fully functioning government and is still clinging to the leg of power like a love sick turd.
 

skybluetony176

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I think you'll find we had a fantastic vaccine roll out, and an unprecedented response to the pandemic when compared to much of the rest of Europe, even down to the nightingale facilities that thankfully wernt called upon, the deaths were tragic, but inevitable, that's the nature of a pandemic. but hey, don't let that temper your hyperbole.

There's much he got wrong during his tenure, but the response to the pandemic wasn't one of them (imo)
It is if you think about it.
 
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Tens of thousands of people died because of his incompetence and negligence.

Is that abhorrent enough for you?
Add to that those we left behind in Afghanistan to the wrath of the Taliban

And the Rwanda policy
 

PVA

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The counter argument is that his actions saved tens of thousands of lives.

That's great, but still tens of thousands of people died because of his inactions.

Also crediting the vaccine rollout to Johnson is incredibly insulting to the scientists and the NHS. Plus it's not like Starmer or Corbyn or any other leader would have been like 'you know what, let's not bother with the vaccine '. Thank god Johnson went against the grain and decided to go for it.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I chose not to get a vaccine as I'm a healthy guy with no underlying conditions, that's my personal choice. Boris told us all to get it. And yet his detractors say he got the pandemic response wrong! Was he wrong to say get vaccinated?

You went a bit further than that actually. But for the record

He allowed infected patients back into care homes
He handed out billions in contracts to friends and favourites of the Tories
He spent a year and a half failing to get every child a device to access remote learning
He opposed giving free school meals over the summer

That’s just a start. He should be in the dock not No 10
 
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Earlier we reported that Brandon Lewis was among a group of ministers expected to gather at No 10 this evening - but his flight from Northern Ireland was delayed.
But the BBC's Chris Mason has been told by a fellow passenger that the delayed flight from Belfast to London is about to take off.
Brandon Lewis will head to Downing Street as soon as he arrives in London - and tell Boris Johnson he should resign as prime minister, the BBC understands.

Can't he just drop him a text?
 

CCFCSteve

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He allowed infected patients back into care homes

I think this was a combo of Hancock and NHS from memory. It happened around the time of Johnson was hospital with Covid/recovering

The fact that he appointed and retained Hancock as Health Secretary probably makes my point moot though !
 

Northants Sky Blue

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The leftie #ScumMedia at the Mail/Sun have -

- HYPNOTISED Cummings, Hancock, Paterson, Parish, Pincher into all fucking up
- FORCED Boris to keep them in post
- MADE him lie about drunken karaoke/fights/puking in no.10 during national lockdown

Without these libtard hacks we'd be golden
 

SBT

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I chose not to get a vaccine as I'm a healthy guy with no underlying conditions, that's my personal choice. Boris told us all to get it. And yet his detractors say he got the pandemic response wrong! Was he wrong to say get vaccinated?

According to this guy, yes:

I'm no expert, but reports are suggesting the mRNA vaccine is causing auto immune respons issues.

Remember thalidomide! Have we learnt nothing?
 

stupot07

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Apparently Johnson has refused to meet them as a delegation and has insisted on seeing each one, 1 by 1. Probably thinks he can sweet talk them around individually.

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stupot07

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You went a bit further than that actually. But for the record

He allowed infected patients back into care homes
He handed out billions in contracts to friends and favourites of the Tories
He spent a year and a half failing to get every child a device to access remote learning
He opposed giving free school meals over the summer

That’s just a start. He should be in the dock not No 10
In addition:

The Delay to lock down kicked 20k+ unnecessarily.

The " you can have a Christmas" caused the biggest spike of wave 2.

Removing the £10 uplift of those on benefits.

The Rwanda policy

The Police and Crime Bill stopping any noisy protest is right up there with dictatorships. 4 police officers arresting Steve Bray and removing his megaphone. I mean wtf.

The Northern Ireland Protocol which was never going to be acceptable.

Removing Cap on Bankers bonuses when the ordinary folk are facing the choice to feed their kids or heat their homes.


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In addition:

The Delay to lock down kicked 20k+ unnecessarily.

The " you can have a Christmas" caused the biggest spike of wave 2.

Removing the £10 uplift of those on benefits.

The Rwanda policy

The Police and Crime Bill stopping any noisy protest is right up there with dictatorships. 4 police officers arresting Steve Bray and removing his megaphone. I mean wtf.

The Northern Ireland Protocol which was never going to be acceptable.



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Eat out to help out

Let's not forget the Peppa Pig speech
 

skybluetony176

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Pritti Patel calling for him to go.

Which begs the question. How over does it need to be before he goes?

They need to reshoot that Trump sketch where he won’t leave the playgroup.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I think this was a combo of Hancock and NHS from memory. It happened around the time of Johnson was hospital with Covid/recovering

The fact that he appointed and retained Hancock as Health Secretary probably makes my point moot though !

Johnson said many times that he took full responsibility for everything that happened. As of course he wasn’t just saying that for effect, it’s his fault things like that happened
 

fatso

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According to this guy, yes:
I'm more than happy with my vaccine decision, I looked at my personal situation and chose not to take a new vaccine with no long term testing, for a flu like virus with a survival rate in excess off 99%
Others will make their own decision according to their own circumstances.
I certainly haven't criticised him for his handling of the pandemic.
 

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