Otis
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Sad day. The one person I thought would be the worst possible choice out of the 5.
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fernandopartridge
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Liz Truss is the Prime Minister
David O'Day
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Only way this could of been better is if somehow Braverman had made it through and won
#VoteLiz
#VoteLiz
clint van damme
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Or, ya know, agitating
These Rebel MPs Are Planning a War with Labour Austerity
Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell and their socialist mates won't let a Labour government implement more austerity.www.vice.com
Answer me this: if everything the left has done has been perfect, why do they keep losing?
At some point you’ve got to make an honest appraisal of your situation or you’re doomed to repeat the same mistakes.
I did. I put what went on with Corbyn to one side.
He then purged the left in senior positions and I thought fair enough.
Then Starmer made his ten pledges and I could really get on board with them.
But hes sinced trashed everyone of them and its been one kick in the teeth after another.
The reaction to the striking rail workers was bad enough, but the reaction to BA workers was incredible from the Labour Party.
It's OK playing the game to get elected but this lot have more than crossed the line for me.
Grendel
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A government can call an election with 24 hours notice?
clint van damme
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Yeah, Braverman is worse, an absolute physco
shmmeee
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What’s the big concern with Truss?
And that’s fair enough. But essentially choosing the Tories because you care about workers rights is a strange one.
The fact is a government shouldn’t pick a side in an industrial dispute, but should support a workers right to withdraw their labour and demand a fair deal.
I don’t think Labour MPs should be on the picket line (unless they’re on strike!) personally but fair enough if you do. From what I’ve seen Lammy has apologised for being mistaken about the BA strike but TBH I don’t know much about it.
And that’s fair enough. But essentially choosing the Tories because you care about workers rights is a strange one.
The fact is a government shouldn’t pick a side in an industrial dispute, but should support a workers right to withdraw their labour and demand a fair deal.
I don’t think Labour MPs should be on the picket line (unless they’re on strike!) personally but fair enough if you do. From what I’ve seen Lammy has apologised for being mistaken about the BA strike but TBH I don’t know much about it.
JAM See
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clint van damme
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I haven't chosen the tories, Ive forsaken Labour.
Of course, come election time, I may feel different, but at the moment, it's a no.
shmmeee
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Potato potahto, we live in a binary democracy for all intents and purposes. By all means be pissed off with Labour, but come the GE you’re either voting for them or you’re enabling the Tories is the sad fact.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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So we've either got Mr. Austerity+, because he's rich and doesn't have working class mates so he won't see there being any problems, or a woman so far out of her depth she'd drown in a paddling pool.
Truss is so monumentally stupid that Boris looks like a mastermind next to her. Boris is corrupt and self-serving, Truss is self-serving but not intelligent enough to be corrupt.
If she wins it's going to be painful watching her get bullied by other nations while she thinks she Thatcher, such is her lack of self-awareness. But at least it'll make it more likely we'll get rid of the entire shower of them next time.
Truss is so monumentally stupid that Boris looks like a mastermind next to her. Boris is corrupt and self-serving, Truss is self-serving but not intelligent enough to be corrupt.
If she wins it's going to be painful watching her get bullied by other nations while she thinks she Thatcher, such is her lack of self-awareness. But at least it'll make it more likely we'll get rid of the entire shower of them next time.
Skyblueweeman
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SkyBlueCharlie9
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I have worked in local government down south since 1996 and I would say amongst qualified professionals in my field vast majority positioned left of centre but with healthy balance of environmental, social and economy issues. For most (but not exclusively) of the less uni-educated staff it definitely careers towards much stronger right wing views. That's down south in a small town rural Borough.
However we have to work with all local councillors and parties and most fine and sensible (bar UKIP councillors) Any bat-shit crazy attitudes/decisions/behaviour by individuals is rare but could just as equally be Cons, Labour, Lib Dems or Green councillors. All down to personalities at local level, but some hard working dedicated staff across the board.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Old flames reignited
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Centrists bring us Major, Blair,
Well you have to hope so really as much because if not, what does it say about democracy where Liz Truss is the answer?!?
Sick Boy
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Spot on, as always.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Spot on, as always.
Saved in case Sunak brings down the 'Truss wall'
Sky Blue Pete
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At training from colleague In hmrc who said said 4% of inflation is directly attributable to brexit
Fall in pound against the dollar
Increase in import costs from the eu
Increased prices and increase in inflatjon
Seems plausible and he certainly knew
his stuff
get brexit done ffs
Fall in pound against the dollar
Increase in import costs from the eu
Increased prices and increase in inflatjon
Seems plausible and he certainly knew
his stuff
get brexit done ffs
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JAM See
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Sunak has said he aims to protect Brexit and the Union. Take your pick Rishi-it's one or the other
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Dunno tbf, there's a way isn't there, it's just not the extreme way Rees Mogg is happy with.
David O'Day
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i for one am looking forward to seeing people laugh at grenners attempts to pretend liz truss is doing well
Brighton Sky Blue
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Well it's what I think he means by 'protect Brexit'. Does he mean just to repeal the measures that are clearly hurting our economy, or just not to rejoin the EU? Because it seems even the former is taken to be equivalent to the latter in some Tory circles.
clint van damme
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What could possibly go wrong?
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I'd like to hope it would be a play on words, but even Tory members aren't that stupid, so it'd probably see his chances up in smoke.
Then again, when appealing to a Tory membership, what's he supposed to say other than protecting Brexit and protecting the Union? Saying he wants to let Scotland go and rejoin the EU probably wouldn't get him elected!
Brighton Sky Blue
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Well in his shoes I would've avoided mentioning the Union altogether beyond refusing to recognise next year's indyref. As we've seen on here the Union isn't a pressing issue for the membership, Brexit I imagine is.
Grendel
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Spot on, as always.
So it’s a coronation?
Sick Boy
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I’m not interested in alternative facts.
Otis
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Yes, indeed.
But on the actual sentiment of what she was trying to say, why is she able to hit the ground running, whilst Sunak is not?
Surely that's just another meaningless soundbite isn't it.
