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That boils down to money however.
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FWIW I don't quite agree with his assessment of Maatsen, who I thought was very much a WiP last season himself.
Samo
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Not necessarily
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Well it does. More cash = bigger pool of players better suited.
Sick Boy
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Of course it does.
So players who aren’t ready to slot straight into the team are just as talented as the players that are? Sounds like a stretch to me.
Samo
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There are hundreds of reasons why a club might miss out on a player. Yes money is a big one but its not the only one, particularly when it comes to loans.
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It's not just one player you're competing for however, is it.
Now tbf, whatever level we're at, cash stops us loaning in Ronaldo instead of buying Palmer, so it's always a limiting factor, but it's quite a downbeat assessment from our manager really. And for younger players it does read slightly strangely, like he comes in every day and growls at Doyle for not being Clarke-Salter! And it was cash that stopped us signing Clarke-Salter at the end of the day.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Hmm, I actually looked for this expecting it to be more positive than BSB and Grendel, not less!
Coventry City boss admits Adaramola and Doyle will take time to find feet
Coventry City news from CoventryLive as the Sky Blues manager assesses loan pair following Carabao Cup debutswww.coventrytelegraph.net
MR himself just seems generally more pissed off than usual and so he's been shooting from the hip more in his interviews.
Samo
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I take your point but its a simplistic one. Would Ronaldo come if we could afford him? Its not just about money.
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Again, it's the pool of players available. If Ronaldo turns us down, it's not like if you're fishing in that market that your fallback option is Ryan Hardie.
Samo
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Again, I take your point but I don't think it applies well to the loan market.
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Old Warwickshire lad
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We have had 2 games. At least wait till we have 10 games under our belt, before making assumptions.
Don’t write them all off before they have had a chance.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I guess it depends on it you take it from a 'better or worse' perspective.
You *could* argue that these lads may have more talent and will end up having better careers, but that's not relevant to us. If they are they won't be playing for us then.
So what matters is now. And if MR thought JCS and Maatsen were ready to be thrown straight into the first team but Doyle and Adaramola aren't, then at this moment in time they're worse. Hopefully they'll get up to speed quickly and that will change, but right now there's no guarantees
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I'm not a fan of loans, but if you're bringing them in it it has to be with the expectation that they'll be capable of playing for the first team very quickly.
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Yeah, doing another club's development work never sits well with me anyway, but at least if you get a lift from the player, there's spme benefit to it.
bawtryneal
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He is really pissed off about the CBS pitch postponents I would expect. It has destroyed the pre season fitness planning and means all the other teams are 3 games fitter and greater match sharpness than us.
Not a happy bunny.
Some people on here spend way too much time overthinking after one loss.
We all wanted a permanent LWB and we got one in Bidwell who has 2 assists in 3 games as well as an adequate backup in Tayo.
We now have a 5th centre back in Doyle which we were all crying out for last season. Hopefully means we don't have to play Sheaf or Dabo at CB again.
We wanted backup to O'hare and we got Palmer on a permanent.
I get that all the signings are still unproven but at this same point last year Matsen & JCS were both unproven in our side.
We all wanted a permanent LWB and we got one in Bidwell who has 2 assists in 3 games as well as an adequate backup in Tayo.
We now have a 5th centre back in Doyle which we were all crying out for last season. Hopefully means we don't have to play Sheaf or Dabo at CB again.
We wanted backup to O'hare and we got Palmer on a permanent.
I get that all the signings are still unproven but at this same point last year Matsen & JCS were both unproven in our side.
rhino1002
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At the end of the previous season and the start of last season everybody was questioning the signing of Gyokeres
Look how that turned out
it was the same with Sheaf before that
Lets wait and see what happens i think Robins and Viveash have a reasonable understanding of what they are doing
Matt smith
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Is he there yet
zuni
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We need real investment asap, MR won't stay forever and the pot of luck for finding diamonds will dry up at dome point...pissed of with name's then nothingness..scumderland buying players left, right and centre...this seasons been wank so far
There, I feel better...this lad if he comes in ..could be just what we need, we clearly need more energy in am
There, I feel better...this lad if he comes in ..could be just what we need, we clearly need more energy in am
Brighton Sky Blue
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This isn't questioning of them it's the people above.
Nick
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Also depends which players were available.
It could be that scouting of the players meant they looked great but not quite ready just yet
Not every player we have signed as always been amazing either.
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...and the pool of available players goes up, the higher your budget is...
long way home
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Has he turned up yet....
Matt smith
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Would be exactly what we need
robbiekeane
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rOBbInGs SaId tHe LoAnS aReNt aS gUd CuZ wE’rE sKiNt
“But here’s the quote and he just says they’re not as game savvy…he doesn’t say that?”
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“But here’s the quote and he just says they’re not as game savvy…he doesn’t say that?”
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shmmeee
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Just depressing mate.
It was never the sensible posters questioning Vik and Sheaf
Old Warwickshire lad
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Oh yes it was. OHare came in for stick early on as well,and so did Matteson.
Lets face it,as a fan base we have no patience, not a slur on us. I personally don’t think any fans can be patient these days. Maybe I am mellowing in my old age.
One of the few benefits of getting old.
stupot07
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Re: O'Hare when he came on loan people just thought he was better as an impact sub off the bench, we were flying at the time and Allen and Shipley were very affective in the box behind Godden, and Robins often used him as an impact player. We were all delighted when we signed him permanently.
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Samo
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There is never a short supply of stupid people, football fans included.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Why aren't the loans as 'game savvy', and why has he said it then?
robbiekeane
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Cause he’s got no money, he’s moving to stoke, we’re selling Hamer for a pittance, we over valued Hamer so can’t sell him, O Hares going to Burnley, and Boddy forgot to water the grass
shmmeee
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Ive no issue with giving players time, but signings that don’t make the squad worry me after Hilßner and Bright. Even Kasta and Dacosta got a few games early on.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Can you give a sensible answer then? Cause from where I'm standing it can only be down to either having less money, or a poorer recruitment model.