Right then who is in the know… The alleged trouble in the camp? (10 Viewers)

[CCFCSteve]

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Wasps in serious trouble

£112m seems a bit toppy even for that shambles of a club ? £45m tax and bond holders. Who’s owed the other £65-70m….whatever/whoever’s owed, they ain’t getting it back !

 

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[SkyblueDad]

I think we should all concentrate on the dire situation at ccfc not effing Wasps

 

[Grendel]

On the brink of admin, players rowing, manager falling out with players…or just a bad start to season after the pitch shambles and heads have dropped/confidence is low

I know which one I believe

As others have suggested, if the club were really struggling that bad financially they have saleable assets that could’ve been shifted on…even at knockdown prices. Unless there are big external overdue debts that we don’t know about, why would the club go into admin ?! That’s not to say we won’t see a player or two sold in the next window, it’s more likely than not, but some of the stuff on here at the moment is nonsense

Hyams transfer fee will pay less than a months wages - the cancelled fixtures have lost a million cash. We will easily lose £5m this year.

Unless the TV money is paid at the start of the season (don’t know) we will need to have short term loans or the numbers don’t work and they also cost money.

If they are no enquiries in the final two weeks for players not a lot can be done even on a cheaper sale

 

[wingy]

Hyams transfer fee will pay less than a months wages - the cancelled fixtures have lost a million cash. We will easily lose £5m this year.

Unless the TV money is paid at the start of the season (don’t know) we will need to have short term loans or the numbers don’t work and they also cost money.

If they are no enquiries in the final two weeks for players not a lot can be done even on a cheaper sale

I assume OSB's query as to whether there had been any cash injection across the last six months didn't crop up in the Forum?

 

[Bad Boy]

Obviously won't name names, but he work's in football and has several professional contact's.
Could be guess work, but why say it if it's not the case?

Because people say things sometimes without substance and then stand back and watch the reaction.

 

[Grendel]

I assume OSB's query as to whether there had been any cash injection across the last six months didn't crop up in the Forum?

I don’t think it did. Can’t see how the club is staying afloat without it so I assume some loans have been given to maintain cash flow.

The TV money is part of it and do we get that monthly? No idea

 

[Adge]

I posted this earlier but on the wrong chat….

The form has been dreadful since last December. Personally I think the sides not good enough to complete overall in this league. We certainly in my opinion have over hyped the ‘big three’ to being better than what they are. Other clubs don’t rate them as highly as we do or value them like CCFC do.

Robins has had a shelf life at all the clubs he has been with and I think city is the longest he has stayed with a club.

We need to shake this squad up with some new faces as I personally think some have hit the wall and ability wise can’t go any further and the frustration is starting to show.

Will robins be here by the end of September? I personally doubt it. I feel he might walk and done all he can.

On a footnote to the players that are creating a problem behind the scenes (and a couple are) be very careful what you wish for and show a bit of respect to the manager that has given you a career in the championship, and got you a salary that you could retire on and not work again.

That is a very valid point. Take O’Hare for instance, would he command more than 3-4 million realistically? I know some figures banded about Ref Burnley were 8-10 Million which was in my opinion wide of the mark and very optimistic.
3-4 million for an established Championship player is not a lot of money in today’s market, but as we have seen recently, the gaping hole in the side when he isn’t available and doesn’t play means that his value to us is priceless.

 

[Hobo]

Where's SBB gone and when was his last post?

On the Blackurn forum

 

[CV22SBA]

I think we should all concentrate on the dire situation at ccfc not effing Wasps

So you don’t think Wasps going bust effects us? It’s there stadium, not ours.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Hyams transfer fee will pay less than a months wages - the cancelled fixtures have lost a million cash. We will easily lose £5m this year.

Unless the TV money is paid at the start of the season (don’t know) we will need to have short term loans or the numbers don’t work and they also cost money.

If they are no enquiries in the final two weeks for players not a lot can be done even on a cheaper sale

There’s a huge difference between needing short term loans and being on the brink of administration though. We need additional cash and we know it will be generated from player sales whilst we’re owned by SISU. People are talking like thats a big surprise all of a sudden.

 

[Dirk Turpin]

I think the problem lies with the uncertainty around the club, the fans are kept in the dark and fed a few scraps every so often eg the statement from the club last week. It seems like there's something going on behind the scenes and good ownership would at least clarify that rather than leaving it to speculation and letting it cause problems.

If SISU can't/won't stump up a short-term loan to cover the pitch situation then they need to go as soon as possible.

 

[SkyblueDad]

So you don’t think Wasps going bust effects us? It’s there stadium, not ours.

Who goes bust Wasps Rugby or Wasps holdings separate companies I believe of course there’s an issue with the stadium but unless it’s pulled down it will still be there for someone to pick up. My concern at the moment is ccfc are still about to play there whoever owns it.

 

[wingy]

It as seems to be that this assumption we paid for the pitch renovation comes despite BBC denial,at least Clive anyway.

 

[ceetee]

I would have thought that, if the club had found the money to pay for it they would have said so

 

[Samo]

Feeling let down in what way?

Well I guess they were sold the 'incremental progression' bullshit like we were.

 

[Skyblue_CP]

The only way we are going to progress as a club is if SISU leave, simple as. The only thing that is “Championship” about this club is the support. We’re a L1/2 set up on tour to the Championship punching hugely above our weight off of miracles worked by MR, AV and the recruitment team. Just as the likes of Yeovil, Burton and MK were a few years ago. No wonder we miss out on so many targets as we’re a last or only option team. Who wants to come here? No stadium, a shocking training facility that’s the same as it was in the 60s, In the news for all the wrong reasons constantly and no money or stability. Some L1 clubs are significantly more attractive.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

I just hope behind the scenes we're being sold and that's why our itks have all gone quiet

 

[higgs]

I just hope behind the scenes we're being sold and that's why our itks have all gone quiet

Our Itk might be at a different club now

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[Paxman II]

The only way we are going to progress as a club is if SISU leave, simple as. The only thing that is “Championship” about this club is the support. We’re a L1/2 set up on tour to the Championship punching hugely above our weight off of miracles worked by MR, AV and the recruitment team. Just as the likes of Yeovil, Burton and MK were a few years ago. No wonder we miss out on so many targets as we’re a last or only option team. Who wants to come here? No stadium, a shocking training facility that’s the same as it was in the 60s, In the news for all the wrong reasons constantly and no money or stability. Some L1 clubs are significantly more attractive.

Good God man. You are a Sky Blue supporter? The last 5 years have been significant progress wouldn't you say?

 

[David O'Day]

Tbf I've heard today financially we're in the toilet and the reason the players wanted out who wanted out is because of these concerns

We literally cannot afford to exist as a championship club under these owners

If you've heard it then it's a load of bollocks,

 

[Skyblue_CP]

Good God man. You are a Sky Blue supporter? The last 5 years have been significant progress wouldn't you say?

Yes on the pitch through as I said above, a miracle from MR, AV and the recruitment team. Miracles don’t last forever. There is no ambition from the ownership to sustain us at this level. When we end up back in L1 it will have been a enjoyable flash in the pan atleast.

 

[David O'Day]

FFS people, are we just going to take every single bullshit internet rumour and lying c**t who makes stuff up on here as gospel?

 

[David O'Day]

This forum is dead and I can see why people are leaving

 

[torchomatic]

Just worked out with the wife what we spent on today and Hull

About £90 for match tickets
£190 on the train with railcard
£50 for food/drink

Quite a lot even with our leafy Leamington abode taken into account. Wouldn’t hurt for players not to feel like it’s a chore to say thank you before collecting a big payout for 90 minutes’ work max

Same here. £75 petrol for Hull, £80 yesterday, plus parking, food and the tickets. Pleased next two away games at Luton and Brum aren't too far away.

Expensive even for someone who has their own castle.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Good God man. You are a Sky Blue supporter? The last 5 years have been significant progress wouldn't you say?

Oh to be in your world, top of the league Norwich aren’t that good and we won’t spend a day outside the top 6

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

I can’t afford the lawyers others can.

Just say " apparently...."

 

[Liquid Gold]

Amazing how quickly it’s gone sour as fuck

 

[Saddlebrains]

If you've heard it then it's a load of bollocks,

So are your political views you salad but here we are

 

[Flying Fokker]

That isn’t the same as Seppalla publicly declaring she’s looking to sell

Didn’t the club put out a statement that any sale of the ground could be joined to sale of the club. That they were willing to listen to offers?

 

[Skyblueweeman]

I don’t think it did. Can’t see how the club is staying afloat without it so I assume some loans have been given to maintain cash flow.

The TV money is part of it and do we get that monthly? No idea

I think the clubs would get some sort of one off payment at the start of the season and then per match when they're on. Sure its about £120k per match shown for the championship. Not sure how much the away team would get as it partly goes to cover potential lost revenues from those watching at home instead of attending.

 

[Perryccfc]

Are we speculating that SBB’s source was Dom Hyam?

 

[Blind-Faith]

Are we speculating that SBB’s source was Dom Hyam?

Im trying to work this one out aswell

 

[Samo]

Didn’t the club put out a statement that any sale of the ground could be joined to sale of the club. That they were willing to listen to offers?

No it was an article in the Times

 

[SkyblueDad]

Good God man. You are a Sky Blue supporter? The last 5 years have been significant progress wouldn't you say?

On the pitch yes but off it ? Let’s start with 12 months+ playing in Birmingham with shite 5000 gates and for what, what did it achieve ? sweet fanny adams and at a time when we were playing some great attractive football, striving for promotion, our first league success for over 50 years, as said with shit 5000 gates when at home it could have been 20000+ that’s around £300k a match in gate receipts alone lost plus the extras like corporate, refreshments etc,etc. who’s clever clogs decision was that ? probably that dick Fisher again.

 

[Bad Boy]

Just who are these self proclaimed in the knows?