Gambling affiliation (3 Viewers)

[fernandopartridge]

This really is abhorrent



Guess CCFC have this arrangement with BoyleSports

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[jordan210]

Skybet did skybex rewards last season that I believe the login was the same as Sky gambling accounts. I would guess thats how they tied up the data for user and club. Plus all the affiliated links used on social and websites.

 

[hill83]

Surely that's a given though? What would be the point of signing up through links the club provides otherwise? And how else are profits made from betting companies if not from gamblers losing money?

Not saying it a good thing of course. Just not surprising. They would probably be better calling it 'customer profitability' or something.

 

[1ccfc]

So basically, by not winning matches, the club are winning from our betting losses. This sounds right up sisu's street, and maybe we have finally worked our their model. No investment = poor results = more income from us when we bet on city.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Surely that's a given though? What would be the point of signing up through links the club provides otherwise? And how else are profits made from betting companies if not from gamblers losing money?

Not saying it a good thing of course. Just not surprising. They would probably be better calling it 'customer profitability' or something.

It is a bit different as it incentivises clubs to get their fans to gamble. In general most gambling profits come from a small % of customers who will nearly all have a problem.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

It looks bloody awful on the shirts as well. Our “contract” is up with them at the end of the season

 

[Liquid Gold]

Can't wait until bookies aren't allowed anywhere near the game.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Can't wait until bookies aren't allowed anywhere near the game.

It’s all about fun according to them. So of course they won’t mind the maximum wager being capped to a tenner

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

It’s all about fun according to them. So of course they won’t mind the maximum wager being capped to a tenner

I get that it’s not as simple but surely there’s got to be a point where people take responsibility for themselves.

you can add caps yourself to the apps.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I get that it’s not as simple but surely there’s got to be a point where people take responsibility for themselves.

you can add caps yourself to the apps.

You’re right-you don’t get it.

 

[ajsccfc]

The problem is if/when gambling sponsors are banned the even shadier crypto twats will take their place and the whole thing continues.

 

[Grendel]

Surely that's a given though? What would be the point of signing up through links the club provides otherwise? And how else are profits made from betting companies if not from gamblers losing money?

Not saying it a good thing of course. Just not surprising. They would probably be better calling it 'customer profitability' or something.

Yes the terminology is not a great sell but this is an industry than makes money from Sport and encourages participation so not exactly a surprise

 

[fernandopartridge]

Football clubs directly profiting off the back of their supporters losing money gambling is completely wrong. Yes I guess that indirectly is the case with being sponsored by a bookmakers but this is more overt than that.

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

If you accept a gambling company as your sponsor, surely this is a logical extension of that sponsorship, just as much as if we were pushing Tallon pens, Subaru cars or Granada bingo. The sponsors are paying to spread their profile and increase their customer base, and the club are offering that service to maximise their revenue.

The question of whether gambling operators should be allowed to advertise in football is a different issue really, albeit one certainly worthy of debate. Just a question to you FP though - would you rather we had no sponsor than have a betting company as sponsor? I'm not sure how much we get from that sponsorship, but unless it was significant I wouldn't be too concerned if we did without, but I guess it would give SISU even more reason to limit investment in the team.

 

[mark82]

The problem is if/when gambling sponsors are banned the even shadier crypto twats will take their place and the whole thing continues.

Not sure there is the money in Crypto any more.

 

[Johhny Blue]

Not sure there is the money in Crypto any more.

There’s plenty of money in it. It’s just that no-one can get it out.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Revealed: Football League clubs taking cut of gamblers’ losses with SkyBet

EFL clubs have been taking cut of money fans lose with bookmaker, prompting accusations that they are exploiting gambling addicts

www.theguardian.com

 

[SheafIsGod]

Who gives a fuck you bunch of melts. Don’t like it? Don’t gamble.

 

[dadgad]

Gambling like any other dependency is a disease. Try shouting ‘don’t do it’ at a cancer patient or a diabetic.

 

[SheafIsGod]

Gambling like any other dependency is a disease. Try shouting ‘don’t do it’ at a cancer patient or a diabetic.

 

[Grendel]

Gambling like any other dependency is a disease. Try shouting ‘don’t do it’ at a cancer patient or a diabetic.

I do think comparing gambling to cancer is pretty outrageous to be honest

 

[M&B Stand]

Gambling like any other dependency is a disease. Try shouting ‘don’t do it’ at a cancer patient or a diabetic.

What a ridiculous comparison, gambling is a compulsion of wanting easy money.

 

[dadgad]

Of course the stigma surrounding behavioural and even biological addictions has to withstand the popular view that it is the ‘victim’s fault’, that he has agency over the ‘choices’ involved. This is not remotely the case but the nonsense endures for a variety of reasons…..mostly a combination of prejudice and ignorance against a background of monetisation and commercial self interest

 

[dadgad]

What a ridiculous comparison, gambling is a compulsion of wanting easy money.

Completely untrue. Indeed from today’s BBC a reference to gambling as a symptom of Parkinson’s disease. This is well documented, ie evidence based.

Mark Mardell reveals he has Parkinson's disease

The former BBC presenter jokes he is "getting used to being the quietest person in the room".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ccfctommy]

Change the word gambling to alcohol on this thread...

 

[dadgad]

If you’re addicted to any drug - heroin, methadone, nicotine, alcohol - you’re also susceptible to any dependency with a strong psycho-social component; shopping, gambling, gaming, etc. It is still addiction. a disease.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

What a ridiculous comparison, gambling is a compulsion of wanting easy money.

It’s nothing like cancer but it’s also not as simple as ‘I want easy money’. It started out for me as something to do as a distraction then quickly turned into desperately chasing losses. Before I knew it I was there with quite literally no money left and lost more than one week’s pay almost right after getting it. Was just 21

 

[dadgad]

They also say that gambling is the worst addiction because of the number of others it affects. If the main breadwinner is losing his/her pay packet every Friday then who feeds the kids, pays the rent, etc.? Membership of gambler’s Anon has quadrupled since 2005 and the way betting firms sponsor football is no coincidence. Cigarette sponsorship of sport was banned a long time ago and there’s no good reason why gambling shouldn’t follow suit.