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[Ian1779]

Why should I give equal consideration to a criminal government sending the economy down the toilet?

It’s like saying you should equal consideration to a flat earther and an astronomer.

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s like saying you should equal consideration to a flat earther and an astronomer.

As much as I don’t like him there is no doubt in my mind that Starmer would be a more competent PM than his Tory counterparts. That’s the bar, it’s low but he crosses it

 

[clint van damme]

As much as I don’t like him there is no doubt in my mind that Starmer would be a more competent PM than his Tory counterparts. That’s the bar, it’s low but he crosses it

Truss and Johnson have done more to convince me to vote for Starmer than Starmer has, and I'm still not totally convinced.

 

[PVA]

Car crash stuff

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Truss and Johnson have done more to convince me to vote for Starmer than Starmer has, and I'm still not totally convinced.

He won’t break the law
He can’t possibly cause more economic damage
He opposes fracking

That’ll do. I just want the Tories out

 

[Otis]

That’s not true. I’ve admitted I’m open to vote both ways at the next GE. It’s either Lib Dem or Labour. Whoever has the best chance of getting my "sitting" Tory MP out.

Did you miss a H there at all by any chance, Tony?

 

[clint van damme]

He won’t break the law
He can’t possibly cause more economic damage
He opposes fracking

That’ll do. I just want the Tories out

I heard a lady being interviewed on the radio the other day from a group called something like nannas against fracking.
She was very impressive and took the pro fracking lobbyist apart. I'd love to see her up against Truss, she would absolutely annihilate her.

 

[JAM See]

We’re back to the point Emily Matis was making in her resent lecture. If you can find 50 economists who say something is a bad idea and only one who says it’s a good idea to portray the opposing opinions as equal opinions is a false equivalence because it doesn’t reflect how out of kilter the one opinion is from the 50. Okay that example was on a different subject but it isn’t surprising that the one economist anyone can find to say anything good about the mini budget also happens to be the one economist that they could find to say the other thing was a good idea. As it happens.

I'll set up a poll.

Who's done better for CCFC? Dion Dublin or Craig Bellamy?

I shall then vote for Bellamy myself.

Come the BBC debate about the subject, I will be on the telly, 'for balance'

I suspect this is how it works sometimes. Be contrary, get noticed.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I heard a lady being interviewed on the radio the other day from a group called something like nannas against fracking.
She was very impressive and took the pro fracking lobbyist apart. I'd love to see her up against Truss, she would absolutely annihilate her.

I teach how fracking works to GCSE students, including case studies of what’s happened in the USA already. Most were baffled we were even considering it never mind going ahead.

Would fancy their chances of debunking Mogg on the topic

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I teach how fracking works to GCSE students, including case studies of what’s happened in the USA already. Most were baffled we were even considering it never mind going ahead.

Would fancy their chances of debunking Mogg on the topic

Ah, but you're a lefty commie striking stinking teacher.

You're part of the problem.

 

[skybluetony176]

I'll set up a poll.

Who's done better for CCFC? Dion Dublin or Craig Bellamy?

I shall then vote for Bellamy myself.

Come the BBC debate about the subject, I will be on the telly, 'for balance'

I suspect this is how it works sometimes. Be contrary, get noticed.

I think with this particular economist it’s more a case of allowing his personal ideology overrule his intellect and schooling on the subjects.

 

[shmmeee]

Any other leader would be twenty points ah… oh

 

[Ian1779]

Any other leader would be twenty points ah… oh

Just don’t fuck it from here lads.

 

[Ian1779]

Seat breakdown is a bit mental though….

 

[shmmeee]

Just don’t fuck it from here lads.

33 points. I can’t even. It’ll be nowhere near that eventually, but mental it’s there even once.

 

[shmmeee]

Seat breakdown is a bit mental though….

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SNP official opposition. The heads exploding on the right would rival the NYE fireworks.

 

[PVA]

33 points

 

[SBT]

SNP official opposition. The heads exploding on the right would rival the NYE fireworks.

Starmer vs Blackford at PMQs would surely have to be moved to primetime.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Any other leader would be twenty points ah… oh

Is that including or excluding the ‘Don’t Know’ Party which had performed strongly in previous polls?

 

[skybluetony176]

This is weirdly good news for the Tories. They seriously need a good clear out of the moronic, cultist, fundamentals they’ve allowed to take over the parliamentary party, not that the membership is much better. It’s an opportunity to start as a clean slate, reintroduce some intellectuals back into the party. Their biggest issue is going to be finding someone to lead what will be left of the parliamentary party, they’re already down to pound shop Ian D Smith’s and David Davies type. I’m really struggling to think of a single MP serving now let alone after a cull of a GE who you would say has any notable leadership qualities, I mean they’ve just decided Liz Truss is the best they have to offer. They can only be hoping that Sunak or maybe Hunt survive the next GE otherwise Desmond Swayne or Nadine Dorries might end up as leader of the opposition.

 

[Ian1779]

This is weirdly good news for the Tories. They seriously need a good clear out of the moronic, cultist, fundamentals they’ve allowed to take over the parliamentary party, not that the membership is much better. It’s an opportunity to start as a clean slate, reintroduce some intellectuals back into the party. Their biggest issue is going to be finding someone to lead what will be left of the parliamentary party, they’re already down to pound shop Ian D Smith’s and David Davies type. I’m really struggling to think of a single MP serving now let alone after a cull of a GE who you would say has any notable leadership qualities, I mean they’ve just decided Liz Truss is the best they have to offer. They can only be hoping that Sunak or maybe Hunt survive the next GE otherwise Desmond Swayne or Nadine Dorries might end up as leader of the opposition.

I think you’ll find Ian Blackford will be leader of the Opposition.

 

[Grendel]

I think you’ll find Ian Blackford will be leader of the Opposition.

Shall we have a wager on that

 

[David O'Day]

This seat map seems more realistic but it's still fuck me the tories are the size of the prime era lib dems

also Labour are over 20% ahead on todays survation poll

 

[rob9872]

If this continues there'll be a hell of a good price on the prime minister after the next GE, but the odds don't yet reflect that optimism. Currently only 4/6 Starmer 2/1 Truss best available. Tempted to get cover on Starmer now and think Truss could go 4s or 5s soon and get stuck into that. We've all seen polls get it widely wrong and could be a very profitable free hit.

 

[David O'Day]

Here's the Survation poll

 

[Deleted member 5849]

If this continues there'll be a hell of a good price on the prime minister after the next GE, but the odds don't yet reflect that optimism. Currently only 4/6 Starmer 2/1 Truss best available. Tempted to get cover on Starmer now and think Truss could go 4s or 5s soon and get stuck into that. We've all seen polls get it widely wrong and could be a very profitable free hit.

How much is Johnson?

 

[skybluetony176]

This seat map seems more realistic but it's still fuck me the tories are the size of the prime era lib dems

also Labour are over 20% ahead on todays survation poll

I think I read something earlier saying that survation have confirmed that 80% of the poll was taken last week before the mini budget so not a true reflection of feelings this week.

 

[rob9872]

How much is Johnson?

3rd fav 35/1

*Assuming you meant Boris and not Ben or Michael

 

[Deleted member 5849]

3rd fav 35/1

There's your money, then.

 

[David O'Day]

I think I read something earlier saying that survation have confirmed that 80% of the poll was taken last week before the mini budget so not a true reflection of feelings this week.

survation fieldwork day was all today a per the data tables

still massive lead for their methodolgy

 

[wingy]

There's your money, then.

He'd need a new safer seat for a start I think.

 

[skybluetony176]

survation fieldwork day was all today a per the data tables

still massive lead for their methodolgy

Must have been a different pollster

 

[skybluetony176]

Probably didn’t want anyone picking The End by the Doors

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Explains why we'll definitely have no election-though Labour should pitch a no confidence vote anyway I reckon

 

[David O'Day]

Curtis still is full of poor takes but he is right about the pure numbers and this is worse for the Tories