shmmeee
Well-Known Member
You always remind me of the sheriff in westerns when the town come to the jail with pitchforks and burning torches wanting to hang the “murderer” he’s got locked up
That might be the nicest characterisation of me on here
Public Enquiry into Sale to Wasps (2 Viewers)
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That might be the nicest characterisation of me on here
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Yeah spotted my mistake.
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Deleted member 5849
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Can I re-state my original point then?No I’m an idiot and misread his profile. He was first elected 2002!
Councillor details - Councillor Gary Ridley - Coventry City Council
Committees and meetings at Coventry City Counciledemocracy.coventry.gov.uk
Nick
Administrator
Can I re-state my original point then?
In which case he should surely know a lot of dirt he could spill if he wanted to
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Can I re-state my original point then?
No. Wasn’t in office 2012-2016
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
In which case he should surely know a lot of dirt he could spill if he wanted to
If he had anything it would certainly benefit him to release it, like any non-Labour councillor. Same with the KovBlog/Piggy guy, always a red flag to me when it’s vague accusations and little proof.
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In which case, I'll stick to point 2!
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
I mean he’s a councillor, he can rock up to records and dig himself, talk to staff, etc. And if he finds something/gets blocked/finds a massive hole in the records, go public with it.
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Deleted member 5849
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I don't disagree, and still think it's lazy politics, but it's harder to throw that mud at him if he wasn't about to be part of that unanimous decision.
Northants Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Im all for a pile-on but this Gary Ridley?
coventryobserver.co.uk
"A joint statement from George Duggins, leader of Coventry City Council and Gary Ridley, leader of the opposition Conservative Party, issued this afternoon, states: “We are naturally disappointed that the Court of Appeal has granted permission to appeal the decision made on 14 July 2017.
“However, we remain confident that we have a robust defence to all the claims, and that the decisions the Council took on 7 October 2014 were entirely lawful."
BREAKING: Coventry City owners Sisu win right to appeal over council’s Ricoh Arena sale to Wasps
COVENTRY City’s ‘owner’ Sisu has today been given permission to appeal against a judge’s decision to refuse a High Court judicial review into the council’s Ricoh Arena sale to Wasps.
coventryobserver.co.uk
"A joint statement from George Duggins, leader of Coventry City Council and Gary Ridley, leader of the opposition Conservative Party, issued this afternoon, states: “We are naturally disappointed that the Court of Appeal has granted permission to appeal the decision made on 14 July 2017.
“However, we remain confident that we have a robust defence to all the claims, and that the decisions the Council took on 7 October 2014 were entirely lawful."
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
Indeed, opportunist Tory wankerIm all for a pile-on but this Gary Ridley?
BREAKING: Coventry City owners Sisu win right to appeal over council’s Ricoh Arena sale to Wasps
COVENTRY City’s ‘owner’ Sisu has today been given permission to appeal against a judge’s decision to refuse a High Court judicial review into the council’s Ricoh Arena sale to Wasps.
"A joint statement from George Duggins, leader of Coventry City Council and Gary Ridley, leader of the opposition Conservative Party, issued this afternoon, states: “We are naturally disappointed that the Court of Appeal has granted permission to appeal the decision made on 14 July 2017.
“However, we remain confident that we have a robust defence to all the claims, and that the decisions the Council took on 7 October 2014 were entirely lawful."
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Deleted member 5849
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Thankyou. That's the mud I was grasping for.Im all for a pile-on but this Gary Ridley?
BREAKING: Coventry City owners Sisu win right to appeal over council’s Ricoh Arena sale to Wasps
COVENTRY City’s ‘owner’ Sisu has today been given permission to appeal against a judge’s decision to refuse a High Court judicial review into the council’s Ricoh Arena sale to Wasps.
"A joint statement from George Duggins, leader of Coventry City Council and Gary Ridley, leader of the opposition Conservative Party, issued this afternoon, states: “We are naturally disappointed that the Court of Appeal has granted permission to appeal the decision made on 14 July 2017.
“However, we remain confident that we have a robust defence to all the claims, and that the decisions the Council took on 7 October 2014 were entirely lawful."
Need to ask Ken then?
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
There’s clearly grounds for an enquiry for the proposed bailout and denials about that bailout. Enquiry into the initial sale of ACL to Wasp’s? What’s it going to say? In selling to Wasps CCC we’re then subsequently able to recover £14m (IIRC) in debt owed to the tax payers. Not exactly damming. We all have our opinion on how it wasn’t good for the club but the fact is we live in a free market economy, anyone was allowed to purchase ACL and CCC were allowed to sell it. The fact that they offloaded it for a couple of million, got more money for a lease extension and then had a tax payer debt paid in full to boot doesn’t exactly say an enquiry is needed.
What’s happened in the last few months with false statements. 100% needs an enquiry.
What’s happened in the last few months with false statements. 100% needs an enquiry.
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
Why? No bailout happened so it's irrelevant now, it didn't even get to the point of being voted on. I'm not defending the council here it's just a complete waste of time.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
The £14 million debt was purchased by the council on the claim it would with interest payments a profit to the taxpayer
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Only if it’s not recipricatedIn which case he should surely know a lot of dirt he could spill if he wanted to
duffer
Well-Known Member
I can't help but feel that there are a lot of people missing a key point here:
There is a world of difference between lawful behaviour, and ethical behaviour.
There are set standards for the behaviour expected of local councillors, the Nolan Principles.
The judicial review did not consider whether these principles were broken, only whether the council acted unlawfully.
Similarly, the fact that £30m bailout didn't go through, does not mean in itself that those involved acted properly.
I've linked to the Nolan Principles below. Could anyone here confidently say that the council has followed these principles given the way they've acted in these matters?
I'm pretty sure I could make an argument that they've broken the lot of them!
Yes, I'd like a genuinely independent enquiry, not the Council marking it's own homework with an "ethics committee" report. If we don't scrutinise and hold our elected officials to proper standards, then I guess we get what we deserve.
www.local.gov.uk
There is a world of difference between lawful behaviour, and ethical behaviour.
There are set standards for the behaviour expected of local councillors, the Nolan Principles.
The judicial review did not consider whether these principles were broken, only whether the council acted unlawfully.
Similarly, the fact that £30m bailout didn't go through, does not mean in itself that those involved acted properly.
I've linked to the Nolan Principles below. Could anyone here confidently say that the council has followed these principles given the way they've acted in these matters?
I'm pretty sure I could make an argument that they've broken the lot of them!
Yes, I'd like a genuinely independent enquiry, not the Council marking it's own homework with an "ethics committee" report. If we don't scrutinise and hold our elected officials to proper standards, then I guess we get what we deserve.
Code of conduct and standards
As a councillor you will be required to adhere to your council’s agreed code of conduct for elected members. Each council adopts its own code, but it must be based on the Committee on Standards in Public Life’s seven principles of public life.
skyblueeyesrevisited
Well-Known Member
Appreciate your thoughts on this Mr Maton
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
We’ve just had a vote and I’ve decided we sre not having one. Thank you for your enquiry