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lifeskyblue

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Thought the ref was good. Certainly kept game flowing didn’t stand for any nonsense etc. But as others have said both sides wanted to play football.
However there were a number of close offside decisions that at the time I thought the female Lino possibly got wrong (both ways). But having spoken to someone who watched on tv stream they felt she got them right.


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shmmeee

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Yes this guy has been amazing. But again the variability in standard of refereeing is massive bordering on ridiculous in some games.

He’s an ex pro isn’t he? Seems like a good way to improve the quality is get a few more who have played at that level.
 

Adge

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I didn't notice whether the ref was good or bad on Saturday which is the point, you shouldn't notice referees and if they're going unnoticed they're doing a good job
Sorry but that is a common misconception and again reverts to the drivel that the pundits spout out.
The deciding factor when it comes to the referee having had a good game or not is how he deals with the major incidents during the game and if he got the “big calls” correct.
The fact is on Saturday v Swansea Rob Jones was in his comfort zone aided by 2 teams who on the whole wanted to play football and there were no major incidents/talking points of note.
Think there were only 2 cautions which backs up the point.
 

fernandopartridge

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Sorry but that is a common misconception and again reverts to the drivel that the pundits spout out.
The deciding factor when it comes to the referee having had a good game or not is how he deals with the major incidents during the game and if he got the “big calls” correct.
The fact is on Saturday v Swansea Rob Jones was in his comfort zone aided by 2 teams who on the whole wanted to play football and there were no major incidents/talking points of note.
Think there were only 2 cautions which backs up the point.

It isn't a common misconception, if a referee gets the "big calls" correct nobody talks about them

BTW, the first person I ever heard make the comment about not being noticed was Neil Midgley, though I guess he didn't referee at the same level you did
 

Adge

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He’s an ex pro isn’t he? Seems like a good way to improve the quality is get a few more who have played at that level.
Again that’s cobblers! Remind me again who the best referee of our generation was? Collina never kicked a football professionally in his life but was the best.
 

Adge

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It isn't a common misconception, if a referee gets the "big calls" correct nobody talks about them

BTW, the first person I ever heard make the comment about not being noticed was Neil Midgley, though I guess he didn't referee at the same level you did
Ah, Neil Midgley (a good referee) who refereed some 35-40 years ago you mean who wasn’t involved in the pressures and scrutiny that the modern day officials are subjected to?
Im afraid football has moved on from them times when we didn’t know who the referee was on a Saturday afternoon as much as we didn’t know who the Chairman was who was sitting in the boardroom.
 

pusbccfc

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Best of the season. The first referee I've seen for many years to have the balls not to blow up for every single little niggly foul. He didn't fall for anything.
 

shmmeee

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Again that’s cobblers! Remind me again who the best referee of our generation was? Collina never kicked a football professionally in his life but was the best.

How many ex pros do we have though? I know you’re sensitive about referees but I don’t see the problem with encouraging ex pros into it, and they might get a bit more respect or understand the bollocks players give better at that level.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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How many ex pros do we have though? I know you’re sensitive about referees but I don’t see the problem with encouraging ex pros into it, and they might get a bit more respect or understand the bollocks players give better at that level.
I think it's more we should get up and coming kids in academies as part of their scholarship to have to complete the reffing licence and have officiated at least a certain number of games.
 

Adge

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How many ex pros do we have though? I know you’re sensitive about referees but I don’t see the problem with encouraging ex pros into it, and they might get a bit more respect or understand the bollocks players give better at that level.
That is a fair point and surely the question then should really be-why are so many ex Pro’s so reluctant to get involved?🤔
 

shmmeee

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That is a fair point and surely the question then should really be-why are so many ex Pro’s so reluctant to get involved?🤔

Chickens and eggs innit? I like Dreamers idea of making it part of young players training. If nothing else offers another string to their bow if they don’t make it. Needs to be part of a bigger drive to make referees more respected, one that should probably include more transparency too.
 

Liquid Gold

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Was very good in the main but still annoying that we had 4 minutes added on, spent 2 minutes arguing about/setting up a FK then blew on 93:58.

Not going to get the World Cup add-ons in the Championship are we.
 

Johhny Blue

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Again that’s cobblers! Remind me again who the best referee of our generation was? Collina never kicked a football professionally in his life but was the best.
I always liked Roger Kirkpatrick in the ‘70’s. Great interaction with the players (and crowd)

He had a sneaky shot in a testimonial game once at Highfield rd. but the goalie (Ernie Hunt) pulled off a great save.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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I think it's more we should get up and coming kids in academies as part of their scholarship to have to complete the reffing licence and have officiated at least a certain number of games.
That’s a really good point about academy trainees doing reffing as part of their football education.
I have to say that football as a whole has a real problem if my 15 year olds experience is replicated up and down the country.
Coaches are 50/50 about supporting young refs, parents are about 30/70 in their awareness of the need to support and encourage young referees.
Safeguarding is an utter joke
@Adge really interested in how to make a meaningful difference in this as I’m shocked at the lack of awareness from people in and around the local under age games
50% of young refs give up within 12 months.
The fa has not even phoned or emailed to check how he’s doing
Coaches are as quick to challenge every decision as parents and it’s against the grain for a coach to go out their way to make things easier for him
The ref secretaries are good especially in the Saturday morning league which is just below academy level.
If you don’t look after those youngsters and encourage them you don’t get the numbers progressing right to the top level.
I think adults just treat refs like shit and it’s just not ok.
In 8 games one parent has said thanks - just wow
 
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Adge

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That’s a really good point about academy trainees doing reffing as part of their football education.
I have to say that football as a whole has a real problem if my 15 year olds experience is replicated up and down the country.
Coaches are 50/50 about supporting young refs, parents are about 30/70 in their awareness of the need to support and encourage young referees.
Safeguarding is an utter joke
@Adge really interested in how to make a meaningful difference in this as I’m shocked at the lack of awareness from people in and around the local under age games
50% of young refs give up within 12 months.
The fa has not even phoned or emailed to check how he’s doing
Coaches are as quick to challenge every decision as parents and it’s against the grain for a coach to go out their way to make things easier for him
The ref secretaries are good especially in the Saturday morning league which is just below academy level.
If you don’t look after those youngsters and encourage them you don’t get the numbers progressing right to the top level.
I think adults just treat refs like shit and it’s just not ok.
In 8 games one parent has said thanks - just wow
Trouble is Pete at the stage of new Referees being selected for and then enrolling on the course, many are told of mentors etc being available during those oh so nervous first few games. It never happens and the main reason is the Referees that are willing to make themselves available as a “mentor” are on fixtures aswell. We all know there is a shortage but this is also the vicious circle. I am actually on the mentorship/observer course which helps the next generation of referees so if your lad ever needs any help etc just let me know.
Hats off to him for putting himself forward-as we know the best referees are all in the stand…..
 

wingy

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This should show the record for us and most of our competition I think.

 

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