Gyokeres fee (13 Viewers)

[Finham]

So if we sell him for £12m and £2.4m goes to Brighton, how much of the balance do you think Robins gets? Fir every Vik there's a Hillsner or DaCosta and if hegets half then no way imo can we replace what he gives us in leading the line and goals, which is crucial for the way Robins sets his teams up.

Exactly, it all depends how wisely we spend it. If it's as badly as we spent the McSheffrey money, we may as well not bother but if we're talking Phil Babb for Dion with cash to spare, hell yeah.

 

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[robbiekeane]

You really are either fucking clueless or doubling down and missing the point entirely

Youre the one who thinks buying a football player is like eBay with open bids

Please enlighten me

 

[Finham]

It's laughable how many people think we can just cash in on him at the end of the season, it's as if he doesn't have a say in the matter.

He can just decide that he's not signing for anyone, regardless of if the club accept an offer.

If he sits tight for another season, then he walks away on a free transfer, and bags himself a huge wage and signing on fee.

Then he risks an injury/loss of form and those offers drying up.

 

[rob9872]

Youre the one who thinks buying a football player is like eBay with open bids

Please enlighten me

When you've read your moronic posts back, try a sensible reply

 

[SkyblueDad]

Is that from your same source as the takeover?

It happened let’s be grateful for that.

 

[robbiekeane]

When you've read your moronic posts back, try a sensible reply

Not sure why you’re getting all arsey - the price someone is willing to pay isn’t impacted by what someone else is willing to. It changes their perception of their bargaining power yes but ultimately their walk away point is what it is….that’s basic theory

 

[Brylowes]

See above

Would be very unlikely that any club would offer their maximum bid in the first instance, It they were really keen on the player in question they would usually be willing to up their bid if needed, if they were the only club showing a serious interest (making an offer ) they would be more likely to secure his services without upping their bid.

 

[robbiekeane]

Would be very unlikely that any club would offer their maximum bid in the first instance, It they were really keen on the player in question they would usually be willing to up their bid if needed, if they were the only club showing a serious interest (making an offer ) they would be more likely to secure his services without upping their bid.

Yes mate - agree with “More likely to a secure his service”.

Doesn’t change their walk away point though which was my point

 

[rob9872]

Not sure why you’re getting all arsey - the price someone is willing to pay isn’t impacted by what someone else is willing to. It changes their perception of their bargaining power yes but ultimately their walk away point is what it is….that’s basic theory

You've moved the goalposts to suit and are now saying exactly what I said in the first instance about what they're willing to pay being not necessarily whst they have to! You were advocating earlier they were the same.

As a CIPS qualified buyer of 30 years and a Purchasing Manager for 20, I think it's fair to say I understand a little about negotiation but don't let that stop you.

 

[robbiekeane]

How much they’re willing to pay for him is the maximum amount they will pay before walking away. This doesn’t change no matter how many people are involved - if you’re any good at negotiating

You've moved the goalposts to suit and are now saying exactly what I said in the first instance about what they're willing to pay being not necessarily whst they have to! You were advocating earlier they were the same.

As a CIPS qualified buyer of 30 years and a Purchasing Manager for 20, I think it's fair to say I understand a little about negotiation but don't let that stop you.

No I haven’t…that was literally my point in the first place that peoples breaking point doesn’t change no matter how many people are involved - hence my saying if the clubs any good at negotiating….

Great that we agree, not so great that you’re trying to get into a dick swinging contest over your CV (I could join you and start throwing qualifications and experience around, but I think it’s a little classless…)

 

[rob9872]

The amount we receive if/when he does leave will ultimately depend on 2 things.
1, How much someone is willing to pay.
2, How many different clubs seriously want him, which could increase the fee significantly.

He’s definitely the sort of player likely to appeal to many different clubs.

Nice try, but you've selectively not gone for your first post which replied to this quote from Brylowes and said that we get the same. We might get the same if we hit their maximum but surely you now concede that we're more likely to find that threshold with more than one interested party? If not then in the words of Andy Dufresne you're purposefully being 'obtuse'

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It's laughable how many people think we can just cash in on him at the end of the season, it's as if he doesn't have a say in the matter.

He can just decide that he's not signing for anyone, regardless of if the club accept an offer.

If he sits tight for another season, then he walks away on a free transfer, and bags himself a huge wage and signing on fee.

Doesn’t come without risk and course he’d move to a premier league club don’t be daft

 

[robbiekeane]

Nice try, but you've selectively not gone for your first post which replied to this quote from Brylowes and said that we get the same. We might get the same if we hit their maximum but surely you now concede that we're more likely to find that threshold with more than one interested party? If not then in the words of Andy Dufresne you're purposefully being 'obtuse'

No - nice try, I said they “are the same”.

I selected the post that was relevant and the first one I used to reply to you which very clearly shows my point. Obviously not clear enough for you though as you then had a meltdown and started rattling through your cv

soz mate didn’t know you were a procurement manager

 

[rob9872]

No - nice try, I said they “are the same”.

I selected the post that was relevant and the first one I used to reply to you which very clearly shows my point. Obviously not clear enough for you though as you then had a meltdown and started rattling through your cv

soz mate didn’t know you were a procurement manager

You were the one who went on cheap point scoring about not being an ebay sale I only through some credentials out but keep deflecting.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

You were the one who went on cheap point scoring about not being an ebay sale I only through some credentials out but keep deflecting.

threw*

(Not sure whether to stick my job title in here as an authority to go anally retentive over such things, but...)

 

[fatso]

Doesn’t come without risk and course he’d move to a premier league club don’t be daft

Why would he move to a Premier league club now? If he did he'd cost that club around £15 million, and get around £40k a week in wages.
If he waits a year, he signs for free and gets around £100k a week. In the meantime he will still be demanding around £15k a week here.

It's just a matter of business sense.

 

[rob9872]

threw*

(Not sure whether to stick my job title in here as an authority to go anally retentive over such things, but...)

Thanks, agree and I hate mistakes like that. I see so many of them and try not to react or respond, but be careful with your posting as you're now on my radar!

 

[fatso]

Then he risks an injury/loss of form and those offers drying up.

That's the risk he takes, I doubt his form will suffer, if anything he's still improving, and his value may well increase.
He'd be crazy not to take advantage of the Bosman rule, on a free transfer he could demand a huge signing on fee and £100k+ a week.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

That's the risk he takes, I doubt his form will suffer, if anything he's still improving, and his value may well increase.
He'd be crazy not to take advantage of the Bosman rule, on a free transfer he could demand a huge signing on fee and £100k+ a week.

If he thinks he is good enough to play in the Premier league then he is not going to waste a year of a short career playing in the Championship. Also he could get injured or lose form in that year, so provided the right opportunity comes along in the summer he will leave.

 

[fatso]

If he thinks he is good enough to play in the Premier league then he is not going to waste a year of a short career playing in the Championship. Also he could get injured or lose form in that year, so provided the right opportunity comes along in the summer he will leave.

Let's wait and see, from what I'm hearing, you may be surprised.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Let's wait and see, from what I'm hearing, you may be surprised.

Come on - what are you hearing?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Why would he move to a Premier league club now? If he did he'd cost that club around £15 million, and get around £40k a week in wages.
If he waits a year, he signs for free and gets around £100k a week. In the meantime he will still be demanding around £15k a week here.

It's just a matter of business sense.

Reasonable argument but if he’s not the top earner here he should be and that will only happen if he signs a new contract. The only way he’d get an offer at £100k a week would be if he scores 30 next season with us
So I think all things considered there are only three options now

We sell and reinvest a lot of the profit
He gets injured
He signs a new deal with an undisclosed release fee
My money is on the first
My hope is on the third
My fear is the middle one

 

[Offhegoes]

Vik could of pushed for the move in January but he didn't, Perhaps he still thinks there's a chance we can go up, however slim. He may have an idea of where he wants to go next, and the likes of Southampton / Leeds and Fulham are not it. 2 of those could be in The Championship next season anyway. I think if he hasn't signed a deal by the end of the season, then he'll be off in the summer, and we'll need to sell at the risk of losing him for nothing in 2024.
If he does run down his contract, we do have him for another season, and if King lifts the budget a little for Robins we may be able to have a good go next season

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Vik could of pushed for the move in January but he didn't, Perhaps he still thinks there's a chance we can go up, however slim. He may have an idea of where he wants to go next, and the likes of Southampton / Leeds and Fulham are not it. 2 of those could be in The Championship next season anyway. I think if he hasn't signed a deal by the end of the season, then he'll be off in the summer, and we'll need to sell at the risk of losing him for nothing in 2024.
If he does run down his contract, we do have him for another season, and if King lifts the budget a little for Robins we may be able to have a good go next season

Leicester looks potentially a good fit. Possibly Brentford too especially if Toney receives a long ban.

 

[steve cooper]

I think people forget, we were 15th mid January, at that time Vik had about 18 months left on his contract. If we had sold him, we may have been relegated, such was our form back then.
That alone would have cost us about 6M. And even if he sees out his contract we have him all next year. What would that potentially be worth?
Could be relegation or promotion, we can't tell at this stage, other than Vik will likely make a massive difference to either outcome.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Well, Warnock reckons he'll be gone in the summer, so it must be right!! old Colin wouldn't lie or play mind games, would he???

No disrespect Mr Warnock, keep your nose out of our business.

F**king clown .

 

[Sick Boy]

I think people forget, we were 15th mid January, at that time Vik had about 18 months left on his contract. If we had sold him, we may have been relegated, such was our form back then.
That alone would have cost us about 6M. And even if he sees out his contract we have him all next year. What would that potentially be worth?
Could be relegation or promotion, we can't tell at this stage, other than Vik will likely make a massive difference to either outcome.

If he ends up leaving on a free it would be one of the worst bits of management by the club ever.

 

[Evo1883]

Could end up on 20 plus with double digits assists at this rate

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I still maintain scoring goals isn't necessarily why you'd buy him, either - he contributes even without the goals, they're a happy bonus! Cracking finish today though - if he can vary how he does his one-on-ones that's an added bonus.

(It was Whelan who tried the dink over the keeper every chance he got, I think - they soon got wise to that!)

 

[Evo1883]

We have a mammoth task finding a replacement

 

[Deleted member 5849]

We have a mammoth task finding a replacement

Would never replace him tbf. The task is to get a decent striker to come in - not as good, but decent, and strengthen the team as a whole in other positions.

 

[SkyblueDad]

If he ends up leaving on a free it would be one of the worst bits of management by the club ever.

Vik’s going nowhere.

 

[Brylowes]

I still maintain scoring goals isn't necessarily why you'd buy him, either - he contributes even without the goals, they're a happy bonus! Cracking finish today though - if he can vary how he does his one-on-ones that's an added bonus.

(It was Whelan who tried the dink over the keeper every chance he got, I think - they soon got wise to that!)

Absolutely agree, so many reasons to want him in your team, strength vision touch, he’s happy to hold the ball up or take it and run at them and more importantly he knows when to do what.
Still a relatively young young player as well.
I would imagine he’s ticking an awful lot of boxes in some quarters.
Tbh I think we may struggle to hold onto him ‘even if we achieved the impossible and got promoted.

 

[Saddlebrains]

Vik’s going nowhere.

You keep saying this but wont say why you think its so concrete?

Unless we offer him 30k a week hes off to the premier league on 60k a week or more

 

[SkyblueDad]

The most important box he ticks is our f**cker.

You keep saying this but wont say why you think its so concrete?

Unless we offer him 30k a week hes off to the premier league on 60k a week or more

No he isn’t.
You are just picking figures at the air, I don’t think there is any Premier club going to pay £60k a week for an unproven player at premier level.