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[The Philosopher]

Forgive me, which are BBC employees have been “cancelled” in the “last few years” that we’re supposed to be outraged about?

Cov related:

Martine Croxall, BBC reporter and anchor (London) was at my school (think she left before I started).

Last year was taken off air by BBC for expressing glee at Boris demise.

Reinstated but then shuffled out.

Little things like this create precedence.

Just saying.

 

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[fatso]

This is all the justification you need:

Oh, so we can change people's words to call them out now can we?

How fucking ridiculous.
Why not change every use of the word migrant in this thread to the N word and see how it reads?

This has got to be the most crazy thing I've ever encountered.

But hey why not change this post to "let's invade Poland"

 

[PVA]

Oh, so we can change people's words to call them out now can we?

How fucking ridiculous.
Why not change every use of the word migrant in this thread to the N word and see how it reads?

This has got to be the most crazy thing I've ever encountered.

But hey why not change this post to "let's invade Poland"

 

[harvey098]

You're just qualifying my point on selective outrage and hypocrisy here. The world is bigger than just the BBC... No one can honestly say 'you know what, the reason I didn't speak up about free speech and cancellation before, was because that person didn't work for the BBC'.

Come on.

Ok, generally then. Who else was told that they couldn’t express personal opinions, that we should be equally outraged about? I have genuinely missed this.

 

[fatso]

You don't think that sounds like something that could be said in 1930s Germany?

Ok.

Let's just change your words to "I think that should be said in today's Germany."


You Nazi sympathising fucker!


This is all getting beyond ridiculous now.

 

[harvey098]

Cov related:

Martine Croxall, BBC reporter and anchor (London) was at my school (think she left before I started).

Last year was taken off air by BBC for expressing glee at Boris demise.

Reinstated but then shuffled out.

Little things like this create precedence.

Just saying.

That was live on BBC whilst working for BBC… not on her own private platform. Really quite different.

 

[PVA]

Let's just change your words to "I think that should be said in today's Germany."


You Nazi sympathising fucker!


This is all getting beyond ridiculous now.

You don't understand it, that's fine.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

You don't think that sounds like something that could be said in 1930s Germany?

Ok.

But it didn't mention Jews in the original speech did it. ? It didn't refer to any specific race or religion. You could substitute umpteen speeches or text by inserting " Jew" and it would probably sound ominously 1930s Germany.

 

[SkyblueDad]

Talk of the “Lineker” issue being resolved as early as tomorrow, wonder who’s neck is on the block, Sunak desperate to get it off the front pages before this weeks budget, lets hope Mr. Lineker plays hard to get.

 

[PVA]

But it didn't mention Jews in the original speech did it. ? It didn't refer to any specific race or religion. You could substitute umpteen speeches or text by inserting " Jew" and it would probably sound ominously 1930s Germany.

No, you're also missing the point. It's the language being used, that was Lineker's point. Something you and everyone on your side of the argument seems to have misunderstood.

 

[Como]

Gary's position is interesting and seemingly very selective.

He for example seems to have no issue with Qatar, took their money.

Comparing people fleeing Nazi Germany with modern day France strikes me as a stretch.

 

[The Philosopher]

That was live on BBC whilst working for BBC… not on her own private platform. Really quite different.

Ok:

Lineker on a BBC panel show. BBC TV not Twitter:

“(EU ambassador)…had said Brexit will take 10 years to complete.” Lineker continued “by then the people that voted for it will all be dead”

Look it up.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

But it didn't mention Jews in the original speech did it. ? It didn't refer to any specific race or religion. You could substitute umpteen speeches or text by inserting " Jew" and it would probably sound ominously 1930s Germany.

You asked for how what Lineker tweeted could be shown to be like 1930's Germany. That has been done. Now you're saying "no that doesn't count because that's not ehat he was talking about.

It was how the language was LIKE something that would've been said in the 1930's in Germany. So to make that companrison you change the target of Braverman's speech to one that would have been the equivalent of a target from 1930's Germany. And when you do that it sounds very like it.

 

[The Philosopher]

Gary's position is interesting and seemingly very selective.

He for example seems to have no issue with Qatar, took their money.

Comparing people fleeing Nazi Germany with modern day France strikes me as a stretch.

Didn’t call out Russia at that World Cup despite the Crimea invasion.

He’s a virtue signaller par-excellence. Fine. Up to him, but BBC impartiality rules must apply to everyone equally.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

You asked for how what Lineker tweeted could be shown to be like 1930's Germany. That has been done. Now you're saying "no that doesn't count because that's not ehat he was talking about.

It was how the language was LIKE something that would've been said in the 1930's in Germany. So to make that companrison you change the target of Braverman's speech to one that would have been the equivalent of a target from 1930's Germany. And when you do that it sounds very like it.

Post me a similar speech made by a prominent Nazi party member in the 1930s. Perhaps lineker should have done that himself and then this whole argument wouldn't have ensued, but he chose not to. Piss poor.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Didn’t call out Russia at that World Cup despite the Crimea invasion.

He’s a virtue signaller par-excellence. Fine. Up to him, but BBC impartiality rules must apply to everyone equally.

And don't forget he took in a migrant for less than 3 weeks and made sure the world knew about it, so he does have the moral high ground.

 

[Como]

This confuses me.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

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This confuses me.

Haha . Excellent.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

But it didn't mention Jews in the original speech did it. ? It didn't refer to any specific race or religion. You could substitute umpteen speeches or text by inserting " Jew" and it would probably sound ominously 1930s Germany.

The whole point is that they are demonising a selection of people like the Jews were demonised in Germany in the 1930s. The point of substituting 'immigrant/asylum seekers/refugee' with the word Jew was to demonstrate that the language this Government is using against these people is like the Nazis used against Jews and other marginised minorities in the 1930s.

That is exactly the point Lineker was making too. He wasn't saying that we are living in a country like Nazi Germany but that the Government's rhetoric about immigrants is like the Nazis used against Jews. And of course he is right.

 

[The Philosopher]

Gary's position is interesting and seemingly very selective.

He for example seems to have no issue with Qatar, took their money.

Comparing people fleeing Nazi Germany with modern day France strikes me as a stretch.

Didn’t call out Russia at that World Cup despite the Crimea invasion.

He’s a virtue signaller par-excellence. Fine. Up to him, but BBC impartiality rules must apply to everyone equally.

He not employed by a private employer. It’s the BBC, the state broadcaster. He is compensated well. Our police are not allowed to express personal views in social media. Teachers and others in the employ of the state must remain impartial.

Why should Lineker think that he is above other state employed people?

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Didn’t call out Russia at that World Cup despite the Crimea invasion.

He’s a virtue signaller par-excellence. Fine. Up to him, but BBC impartiality rules must apply to everyone equally.

He not employed by a private employer. It’s the BBC, the state broadcaster. He is compensated well. Our police are not allowed to express personal views in social media. Teachers and others in the employ of the state must remain impartial.

Why should Lineker think that he is above other state employed people?

Lineker is not an employed of the BBC.

 

[SkyblueDad]

Ok:

Lineker on a BBC panel show. BBC TV not Twitter:

“(EU ambassador)…had said Brexit will take 10 years to complete.” Lineker continued “by then the people that voted for it will all be dead”

Look it up.

He’s probity correct, too many coffin dodgers making decisions they won’t have to endure MPs should retire at 60

 

[The Philosopher]

Lineker is not an employed of the BBC.

?

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Fancy wasting 6 pages on that big eared twat.
Never liked him.
Dont give a fuck what he said or didnt say.
But for someone who apparently has no influence it did what he intended it to do.

PUSB.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Didn’t call out Russia at that World Cup despite the Crimea invasion.

He’s a virtue signaller par-excellence. Fine. Up to him, but BBC impartiality rules must apply to everyone equally.

He not employed by a private employer. It’s the BBC, the state broadcaster. He is compensated well. Our police are not allowed to express personal views in social media. Teachers and others in the employ of the state must remain impartial.

Why should Lineker think that he is above other state employed people?

Got lazy. Feet under the table. Far too comfortable and just getting a tad over confident.
He's finished at the BBC now. I wouldn't be surprised if he stays on until the end of the season and then walks .
He and Lily Allen can then hook up and open a hostel in Calais..

 

[The Philosopher]

He’s probity correct, too many coffin dodgers making decisions they won’t have to endure MPs should retire at 60

Lineker is 62.

Off with him then?

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

The whole point is that they are demonising a selection of people like the Jews were demonised in Germany in the 1930s. The point of substituting 'immigrant/asylum seekers/refugee' with the word Jew was to demonstrate that the language this Government is using against these people is like the Nazi's used against Jews and other marginised minorities in the 1930s.

That is exactly the point Lineker was making too. He wasn't saying that we are living in a country like Nazi Germany but that the Government's rhetoric about immigrants is like the Nazis used against Jews. And of course he is right.

And of course what he failed to do was to quote directly from the 1930s Nazi propaganda machine so we can compare and say " Oh Christ, he's right "
An opportunity lost. A huge one.

 

[Houchens Head]

I watched Match of the Day last night, for the first time in ages. Thoroughly enjoyed it without the inane drivel of the commentators and so-called pundits in the studio. I just wanna see the bloody games!!!!

 

[SkyblueDad]

Lineker is 62.

Off with him then?

What constituency does he represent.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

?

He is a freelancer

 

[napolimp]

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This confuses me.

Please provide a link to this article. I look forward to reading it, although I know I won't be because it doesn't exist.

 

[The Philosopher]

He is a freelancer

With a BBC contract. Ok. Not going to argue. He’s a regular contractor to the BBC.

 

[PVA]

Post me a similar speech made by a prominent Nazi party member in the 1930s. Perhaps lineker should have done that himself and then this whole argument wouldn't have ensued, but he chose not to. Piss poor.

Hitler: "The alien immigrant who comes among us must be prevented by every means from living apart and setting up his own kind of life. The people that have come to us should be shut out by all possible means."

Goring: "We will not allow the Jews to sneak in through the back door to our victory. We will keep them out of Germany."

Streicher: "The Jews are trying to flood Germany[...]We must put a stop to this before it's too late."

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Hitler: "The alien immigrant who comes among us must be prevented by every means from living apart and setting up his own kind of life. The people that have come to us should be shut out by all possible means."

Goring: "We will not allow the Jews to sneak in through the back door to our victory. We will keep them out of Germany."

Streicher: "The Jews are trying to flood Germany[...]We must put a stop to this before it's too late."

Mate, they’re never gonna get it.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

And of course what he failed to do was to quote directly from the 1930s Nazi propaganda machine so we can compare and say " Oh Christ, he's right "
An opportunity lost. A huge one.

He could have done, I agree. That would have been more impactful, but he isn't a politician and it was a tweet. I guess he thought it was so obvious to anyone who had heard Braverman and Sunak speak last week. But yes a couple of examples would have been useful and there's no lack of them.