The number of irredeemably thick thickoes who conflate criticism of the EU with wanting ‘out’ when being a transformative partner is and has only ever been the sensible option. It is a tired argument but only Grendel after all.
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The number of irredeemably thick thickoes who conflate criticism of the EU with wanting ‘out’ when being a transformative partner is and has only ever been the sensible option. It is a tired argument but only Grendel after all.
Cov kid 55
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I agree about Ian Wright, passionate and insightful. But Micah Richards drives me mad with his inane laughing. Give me someone like Matt Upson any day.
Grendel
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The number of irredeemably thick thickoes who conflate criticism of the EU with wanting ‘out’ when being a transformative partner is and has only ever been the sensible option. It is a tired argument but only Grendel after all.
What are you on about? It was in his manifesto!
He campaigned for the no campaign in 1975
DionDublinsJockstrap
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1 - They deliberately make the comparison for political reasons
2 - They don’t want to because they like knocking successful people off their pedestals - Jealousy
3 - They can’t read
4 - They are too stupid to realise that they are being played by group 1 above
It’sabatch87
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Is Des Lynam still available?
Rather have him than that six fingered Lestoh twat!!
Get Jeff Stelling on there next season!!
Rather have him than that six fingered Lestoh twat!!
Get Jeff Stelling on there next season!!
SkyblueDad
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Take it you don’t like Gary Lineker.
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It’sabatch87
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Even don’t buy Walkers crisps, oh I’d love to play them soon.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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But either way they get a decent result IMO.
If Lineker had have been stepped down without any backlash then they get the go-ahead to essentially censure BBC output that is critical of them.
If weget the backlash as we saw, they blame it on the corporation as a whole (rather than the Tory stooges they've put in that have caused it) and say that it isn't fit for purpose and the TV licence should have to go. Effectively leading to it being privatised and thus no longer having to offer balance. And it would be far more likely to end up in the hands of someone who was more pro-Tory and right-wing.
Grendel
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The likes of him and Brian Moore are indeed a cut above what we have ended up with now
Grendel
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Regardless of any politics what purpose does the BBC in terms of televised broadcasting anymore? Surely it’s bizarre we should be taxed to be subjected to state broadcasting in a democracy?
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They were dreadful.
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It's supposed to be impartial unlike all the other broadcasters who are owned by rich people who support the Tories. It's also much cheaper. Many people can't afford subscriptions to chanels like Sky and it would be disastrous for them if they lost the BBC. Of course people with your politics would love it and I suspect it is the Tories end game. Let's hope the election comes before it happens.
oakey
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We're not taxed, at least not directly. It's a licence for a public good you can choose not to have. Like you can choose not to have a driving licence or pay road or fuel taxes but some of the funding for roads etc still comes from general taxation.
I'm in favour of more public goods not fewer.
It's also not state broadcasting, it's public broadcasting- a public service.
shmmeee
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Its the envy of the world in terms of balanced news media and educational content. Why wouldn’t you want that?
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Only the BBC will criticise itself in its own news reports.
Grendel
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You haven’t really engaged your brain here have you?
Grendel
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I thought it’s riddled with Tory bias?
shmmeee
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There’s a definite pro government slant due to the mechanics of funding, but even with that it’s the most balanced news media IMO.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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The fact it's the most balanced says more about how disproportionately right wing the media owned by the tycoons are.
skybluetony176
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Just look at its contributions to the world through David Attenborough. All the spin offs from UK comedy in countries around the world. The export of BBC UK comedy all around the world. It’s trusted worldwide for news. And look at everything you get. TV channels, radio channels, on line services. Compare it to Sky, it’s far better value for money. Half the stuff on Sky is reruns of BBC programmes anyway, which all available on the BBC player for free.
Grendel
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I don’t entirely disagree but a compulsory prescription tax is in the 21st century a bit odd. I never watch bbc news never watch mod never watch question time at all
I do think it’s radio broadcasting is essential and should be preserved but TV broadcasting has to become more commercialised
skybluetony176
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And most of them don’t make profit from their media outlets. They’re just a tool to most of them to use to brainwash the plebs into doing what they want them to do.
Grendel
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What on earth on sky is re-runs? Half? really?
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That's exactly what it shouldn't be, and is part of the problem. Successive governments have told it to chase ratings, and it's done that ahead of commissioning things because producers thought them good.
And yeah, its news is closest you'll get to objective. If both lefties and righties are complaining, it's doing its job.
David O'Day
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it's quite meta to see them doorstepping themselves
clint van damme
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Although drive ran with the latest on the Lineker story this afternoon but couldnt get any comment from the BBC! It was aa bit weird.
DionDublinsJockstrap
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clint van damme
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Moore was a top class broadcaster with a huge interest in the lower leagues, think he supported Gillingham.
Grendel
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clint van damme
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Well, I think most commentators and pundits divide opinion but I do think he's in a minority there.
shmmeee
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Its an absolute cultural powerhouse worldwide, and train a lot of international quality talent, as does C4. The idea every channel should be like ITV or C5 is ludicrous. Grendel just doesn’t want it for the same reason every other crank doesn’t. Because it’s not partisan to them.
Skybluefaz
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Moore is probably my favourite of all. Great commentator.
Scratch that, I was thinking of Barry Davies.
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oakey
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Impartiality is overrated -
(or let's get rid of the only channel that tries to be impartial and caters for minority interests so we can pay daft subscriptions to channels, owned by foreign oligarchs, full of long adverts for products we don't need and have no interest in)
Discuss
(or let's get rid of the only channel that tries to be impartial and caters for minority interests so we can pay daft subscriptions to channels, owned by foreign oligarchs, full of long adverts for products we don't need and have no interest in)
Discuss
Grendel
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I think the bbc is not sustainable as it is.
Certain programmes should be streamed on subscription to raise funds such as drama programmes. It’s a myth most programmes are higher quality. The Luther film was partly funded i as done by the bbc but streamed first.
Sports coverage should be scrapped and offered as subscription and protected sports and events also scrapped.
News and radio and works service remains as funded by the government without a licence fee