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[PVA]

He had a higher percentage of votes in 2017 than Blair and Thatcher you dimwit

Grendel defending Corbyn, the circle is complete

That's great, but he also suffered the worst election defeat in 90 odd years at the last one.

He is poison to so many.

 

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[Grendel]

But, as pathetic as it is, 'but Corbyn' is still an attack line used by the Tories.

Labour will win the election with or without Corbyn in my opinion. But they're doing everything they can to make sure of it.

By strangling a traditional labour voice? Lol this is hilarious

 

[PVA]

Anyway I'm off for the evening, enjoy your time in perpetual opposition lads

 

[Grendel]

Anyway I'm off for the evening, enjoy your time in perpetual opposition lads

Im sure if this was a mask singer reveal you’d be identified as Len fairclough with the constant thumb up emoji

 

[PVA]

Im sure if this was a mask singer reveal you’d be identified as Len fairclough with the constant thumb up emoji

Wow another incredibly topical reference from Grendel

 

[clint van damme]

But, as pathetic as it is, 'but Corbyn' is still an attack line used by the Tories.

Labour will win the election with or without Corbyn in my opinion. But they're doing everything they can to make sure of it.

The tories will use the Corbyn attack line regardless.
They'll use the 2008 financial crisis, they'll use any old shit.
This is petty minded from someone who so far hasn't actually offered any meaningful alternative up to now.

 

[fernandopartridge]

He has stood for the party for 40 years. No other former Labour party leader to my knowledge has been struck off as a party candidate. His constituents clearly still want him and it will be an embarrassment for Starmer that he never had to risk in the first place.

Genuinely hope he stands and wins the seat from Labour, they deserve fuck all.

 

[Ian1779]

Grendel defending Corbyn, the circle is complete

That's great, but he also suffered the worst election defeat in 90 odd years at the last one.

He is poison to so many.

Put your money where your mouth is then.

Charity bet that says Corbyn beats any Starmer lackey they parachute in if he stands as an independent.

 

[fernandopartridge]

PVA is like Starmer, his whole world view based on nothing but a perception of what he thinks certain people want.

 

[PVA]

Put your money where your mouth is then.

Charity bet that says Corbyn beats any Starmer lackey they parachute in if he stands as an independent.

He probably will, but that's not the point. I'm not doubting his popularity in Islington.

I'll chuck 20 quid to charity right now though if you want.

 

[PVA]

PVA is like Starmer, his whole world view based on nothing but a perception of what he thinks certain people want.

And yours based on a perfect utopia shouting from the sidelines in perpetual opposition.

Laters

 

[Ian1779]

And yours based on a perfect utopia shouting from the sidelines in perpetual opposition.

Laters

That’s not even a thing - it’s absolute word salad.

 

[fernandopartridge]

And yours based on a perfect utopia shouting from the sidelines in perpetual opposition.

Laters

Imagine having beliefs

 

[Deleted member 5849]

He has stood for the party for 40 years. No other former Labour party leader to my knowledge has been struck off as a party candidate. His constituents clearly still want him and it will be an embarrassment for Starmer that he never had to risk in the first place.

Ramsay MacDonald was expelled from the Labour Party.

 

[clint van damme]

And yours based on a perfect utopia shouting from the sidelines in perpetual opposition.

Laters

If Starmers success or otherwise in the next GE depends on Corbyns status within the party then he's in trouble.
Once again he created an unnecessary distraction that's benefitting no one but the tories.

 

[Ian1779]

His decline in 2019 was ironically as he let Starmer create the labour Brexit plan.

Labour were polling in the lead as late as May 2019. It went off a cliff when Starmer got his PV plan through.
Corbyn was weak and should have sacked Starmer and stuck to his original 2017 manifesto commitment.

 

[Grendel]

Grendel defending Corbyn, the circle is complete

That's great, but he also suffered the worst election defeat in 90 odd years at the last one.

He is poison to so many.

What circle you

General Election

But that's exactly the same as not remaining inside the customs union, and leaving the single market. How so?

www.skybluestalk.co.uk

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Ramsay MacDonald was expelled from the Labour Party.

Is there anyone alive on here who remembers that?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Grendel defending Corbyn, the circle is complete

That's great, but he also suffered the worst election defeat in 90 odd years at the last one.

He is poison to so many.

The country has largely forgotten Corbyn, funnily enough the only thing keeping him in the press is Starmer’s vendetta against him

 

[David O'Day]

Fuck Corbyn, all he had to do was accept that Labour were really shit at tackling antisemitism under his watch and he'd still be a labour MP.

He didn't so he isn't, knowing people in Islington the idea he wins as an independent could be very wrong. A lot of the locals are more moderate than he is.

 

[David O'Day]

Oh and fuck Corbyn for is absolutely awful pro russian edm.

 

[Grendel]

Fuck Corbyn, all he had to do was accept that Labour were really shit at tackling antisemitism under his watch and he'd still be a labour MP.

He didn't so he isn't, knowing people in Islington the idea he wins as an independent could be very wrong. A lot of the locals are more moderate than he is.

What a turncoat David. All those days when he sucked up to your beloved Gerry Adams and now you disown him for Tory Lite Keir - where did it go wrong?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Fuck Corbyn, all he had to do was accept that Labour were really shit at tackling antisemitism under his watch and he'd still be a labour MP.

He didn't so he isn't, knowing people in Islington the idea he wins as an independent could be very wrong. A lot of the locals are more moderate than he is.

Maybe you could stand against him?

 

[Grendel]

Oh and fuck Corbyn for is absolutely awful pro russian edm.

On the piss again?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

What a turncoat David. All those days when he sucked up to your beloved Gerry Adams and now you disown him for Tory Lite Keir - where did it go wrong?

Well as it transpires a rogue MI6 agent was sucking up to Martin McGuinness

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Is there anyone alive on here who remembers that?

Well now you know if a former leader (Prime Minister, no less) who was cast out.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

He is poison to a lot of the electorate. This probably isn't the best way to go about it, I agree there, but the Labour Party has a better chance of winning the election without him (which I know a lot in here won't like to hear).

Don't involve him on the front bench or in nationwide campaigns then. I think having Corbyn as an independent will get far more media and prove way more of a distraction. Also a good chance that Labour could lose the seat because of it.

There are far more important issues to be spending time on than Corbyn.

 

[PVA]

What circle you

General Election

But that's exactly the same as not remaining inside the customs union, and leaving the single market. How so?

www.skybluestalk.co.uk

There's literally hundreds of examples of you slating Corbyn you idiot.

He would against Corbyn who was an unelectable fuckwit

Now because Starmer wants him out you're desperate to defend him. Pathetic.

 

[Ian1779]

Don't involve him on the front bench or in nationwide campaigns then. I think having Corbyn as an independent will get far more media and prove way more of a distraction. Also a good chance that Labour could lose the seat because of it.

There are far more important issues to be spending time on than Corbyn.

I agree - like any kind of meaningful policy that will improve the lives of the people in this country.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Fuck Corbyn, all he had to do was accept that Labour were really shit at tackling antisemitism under his watch and he'd still be a labour MP.

He didn't so he isn't, knowing people in Islington the idea he wins as an independent could be very wrong. A lot of the locals are more moderate than he is.

Which of the suggested measures from the Forde report have you been involved in implementing Dave?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

It’s nonsense. If the electorate won’t put Labour in because Corbyn is pottering around in North London it says far more about Starmer’s inability to offer any kind of incentive or reason to vote for him.

Do better

If a single backbench MP popular with his constituents keeping his seat is enough to make them not vote for Labour I'd suggest it's people looking for any excuse to not vote for Labour. Half of those that would say they didn't vote for Labour because Corbyn stayed would probably also say they couldn't vote for labour because they were focusing on internal power struggles rather than the big issues facing the country if they get rid of him.

 

[Grendel]

There's literally hundreds of examples of you slating Corbyn you idiot.



Now because Starmer wants him out you're desperate to defend him. Pathetic.

I made that post in 2017!

I wouldn’t vote for Michael Foot, Lord Anthony Wedgewood Benn or Neil Kinnock but I can see the contribution made in politics

Again it’s the binary black and white childlike approach that exposes you

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Don't involve him on the front bench or in nationwide campaigns then. I think having Corbyn as an independent will get far more media and prove way more of a distraction. Also a good chance that Labour could lose the seat because of it.

There are far more important issues to be spending time on than Corbyn.

Tbf if they lose the seat it makes no difference. Not like Corbyn has a reputation of voting with a Labour government anyway.

 

[PVA]

Tbf if they lose the seat it makes no difference. Not like Corbyn has a reputation of voting with a Labour government anyway.

Exactly.

They've clearly decided it's a net gain.

 

[Ian1779]

Have to

Actually I don’t have to - the joy of the fact my vote is anonymous.

But seeing as we talking about it, tell me about why I should.

Is he supporting my profession as we try to secure a fair deal for pay and security for the future?

Is he providing any kind of meaningful platform that will see a step change in the future for my (our) children?

He has shown more vitriol to Corbyn and people sticking themselves to roads than he ever has to the Tories… tell me why that is?