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[David O'Day]

I didn’t realise but apparently there’s a border change happening so Braverman is up against a fellow Tory to be selected to stand as an MP in a new seat at the next GE.

shame

 

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[fernandopartridge]

I didn’t realise but apparently there’s a border change happening so Braverman is up against a fellow Tory to be selected to stand as an MP in a new seat at the next GE.

Thought that had been put on the back burner, was first mentioned years ago but had not heard anything since
This meaning the wider boundary review not just her seat

 

[skybluetony176]

Thought that had been put on the back burner, was first mentioned years ago but had not heard anything since
This meaning the wider boundary review not just her seat

Suella Braverman's battle to save her seat in Tory Party showdown | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

The Home Secretary may have helped the Tories' electoral fortunes in the past month, but this week she faces a battle for her own future.

www.express.co.uk

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Suella Braverman's battle to save her seat in Tory Party showdown | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

The Home Secretary may have helped the Tories' electoral fortunes in the past month, but this week she faces a battle for her own future.

www.express.co.uk

In what way has she surged the tories fortunes

 

[fernandopartridge]

Suella Braverman's battle to save her seat in Tory Party showdown | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

The Home Secretary may have helped the Tories' electoral fortunes in the past month, but this week she faces a battle for her own future.

www.express.co.uk

Cheers, I looked it up on the Boundary Commission, it's different from the proposals a few years back which merged a lot of constituencies to make larger ones meaning less MPs

 

[PVA]

In what way has she surged the tories fortunes

The Express don't bother with such trivial issues as facts and real life

 

[David O'Day]

Cheers, I looked it up on the Boundary Commission, it's different from the proposals a few years back which merged a lot of constituencies to make larger ones meaning less MPs

Isn't just the normal BC tarting about with seat boundaries rather than the one Cameron wanted back in 2010

 

[skybluetony176]

The Express don't bother with such trivial issues as facts and real life

You and your usual lack of reality. When she joined the government they were on leading in the polls 47% to labours 31%. They’re now leading the polls on Labour by 27% to Labours 48% and have been consistently-20 points ahead of Labour for over a year.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I see that one of the architects of Britain's current abysmal cost of living has died

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

All hell breaks loose on these forums if someone doesn’t hold a consistent opinion on Ben Sheaf ffs, I don’t hold out much hope for politicians trying to be flexible on the BBC’s flagship current affairs show

Sheaf is God

 

[PVA]

Just grim.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Just grim.

Disgraceful

 

[fernandopartridge]

If only the bloke here had been a Labour MP yet left the party to join another, or a Tory seeing the writing on the wall in his constituency, he'd be welcomed straight back in to the 'broad church'

 

[Grendel]

If only the bloke here had been a Labour MP yet left the party to join another, or a Tory seeing the writing on the wall in his constituency, he'd be welcomed straight back in to the 'broad church'

The most bizarre thing about this is that they found the tweet or someone bothered to whistle blow

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The most bizarre thing about this is that they found the tweet or someone bothered to whistle blow

Starmer probably putting in the hard graft on Twitter

 

[Grendel]

Starmer probably putting in the hard graft on Twitter

He’s probably given @PVA an internship with a promise of a big shiny red rosette with his autograph on as a reward

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He’s probably given @PVA an internship with a promise of a big shiny red rosette with his autograph on as a reward

I think beige is the new party colour actually

 

[Grendel]

Reading up on Nellist it seems his first shared office in Westminster was with Blair

Lol that would be like Corbyn and Starmer together

“I’m Keir I’m named after the founder of the Labour Party”

“I’m Jeremy I believe in everything your namesake stood for”

“oh ok. I think I’m in the wrong room”

 

[clint van damme]

If only the bloke here had been a Labour MP yet left the party to join another

Tory enabling writ large, yet come the GE, you'll have clowns who are OK with this calling people who didn't vote for starmer tory enablers.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Tory enabling writ large, yet come the GE, you'll have clowns who are OK with this calling people who didn't vote for starmer tory enablers.

Already happened on this thread multiple times

 

[David O'Day]

If only the bloke here had been a Labour MP yet left the party to join another, or a Tory seeing the writing on the wall in his constituency, he'd be welcomed straight back in to the 'broad church'

No, they are 2 different things

Campaigning for a non labour candidate has always been grounds for being expelled. It is one of the conditions you sign up to when joining.

The Corbyn era party did the same to Campbell.

 

[Ian1779]

No, they are 2 different things

Campaigning for a non labour candidate has always been grounds for being expelled. It is one of the conditions you sign up to when joining.

The Corbyn era party did the same to Campbell.

So how come Luciana Berger is back in the fold? She ran to be a Lib Dem.

 

[skybluetony176]

So how come Luciana Berger is back in the fold? She ran to be a Lib Dem.

Did she run while still a member of the Labour Party?

 

[Ian1779]

Did she run while still a member of the Labour Party?

No to be fair, just quit as a Labour MP and campaigned against them.

But then Starmer does love anyone that isn’t a socialist so it figures.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

No to be fair. But then Starmer does love anyone that isn’t a socialist so it figures.

So the antisemetism had nothing to do with her leaving, and the apology had nothing to do with her returning?

 

[Ian1779]

So the antisemetism had nothing to do with her leaving, and the apology had nothing to do with her returning?

Well she did receive some absolutely horrific abuse, but then it turned out if came from some right-wing nutters and not lefties in the party so who knows?

 

[fernandopartridge]

So the antisemetism had nothing to do with her leaving, and the apology had nothing to do with her returning?

She went to Change UK first so no, it was nothing to do with "anti-Semitism" and I'm surprised you've bought that nonsensical yarn

 

[Deleted member 5849]

She went to Change UK first so no, it was nothing to do with "anti-Semitism" and I'm surprised you've bought that nonsensical yarn

And she left because she claimed the party was anti-semetic.

 

[David O'Day]

So how come Luciana Berger is back in the fold? She ran to be a Lib Dem.

because you can be allowed back in and she wasn't a member when she ran as a lib dem.

it's really simple, you can be a former member of another party. what you can not do is campaign for another party while being a labour party member

it's not rocket science

 

[Ian1779]

because you can be allowed back in and she wasn't a member when she ran as a lib dem.

it's really simple, you can be a former member of another party. what you can not do is campaign for another party while being a labour party member

it's not rocket science

No not rocket science to be fair… just shows that the leader will welcome anyone that isn’t a socialist.

In the meantime the public sector strikes for better pay and conditions, whilst Starmer is worried if he’s got enough flags on show in a press conference.

 

[David O'Day]

No not rocket science to be fair… just shows that the leader will welcome anyone that isn’t a socialist.

In the meantime the public sector strikes for better pay and conditions, whilst Starmer is worried if he’s got enough flags on show in a press conference.

ok mate, you got it wrong and you are throwing you toys out

 

[PVA]

You can argue whether the rules are fair or consistent or not, and that's a different argument.

But that bloke broke the rules and got punished according to said rules. Berger didn't break the rules, and was allowed back in.

To be fair that guy even said he was trying to get deselected.

 

[David O'Day]

it's what happened to campbell in 2019 as well

it's not a plot to get rid of socialists

 

[chiefdave]

it's what happened to campbell in 2019 as well

it's not a plot to get rid of socialists

are there any stats for how many people have been kicked out of the party by year? There does seem to be a fair number of people on social media claiming they've been kicked out for liking a Green Party tweet 10 years ago and shit like that. Would be interesting to see how the numbers stack up

 

[chiefdave]

Wasn't Berger the one who claimed her local CLP wanting to hold a no confidence vote saying she wasn't supportive of the party or the leadership was anti-semetic only for her to join another party a few weeks later?