Supporters forum - Thursday 12th April (13 Viewers)

[Nuskyblue]

31,400 was the attendance.

Semi related. Was there ever an explanation as to how the women managed to get get an attendance record above the stadium capacity?

 

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[pusbccfc]

Semi related. Was there ever an explanation as to how the women managed to get get an attendance record above the stadium capacity?

It didn't, it was 32,128.

There's conflicting reports that the capacity is either 32,609, 32,753 and over 33,500 which the Arnold Clark cup press release stated.

 

[Nuskyblue]

Ahh right so basically fake news (the figure, not that it was a record). Now I know, thanks

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Things they’d not yet talked about

In what sense, and how did that impact on the dynamic between the pair of them?

 

[Robinshio]

Regards the away concourse, there has been the odd occasion when home and away fans have been situated behind the ‘away’ goal

Namely Crewe in the JPT / a community day a few years ago.

So it can be done, albeit it may not be easy

under Coleman there was half a season when the home fans were behind that goal, and the away fans were pushed into the corner
Whilst we are under- capacity, that doesnt make financial sense, but if we ever got to the PL, there is no reason why they could not to that again - That concourse can be split in 2 like it has before

 

[M&B Stand]

Shame the police limiting the end to 5000.

That's 1000 - 1500 tickets unsold at £33 for the Birmingham, West Brom and Sunderland games.

Equally next season Everton/West Ham/Leicester/Leeds/Sheffield Wednesday would sell it too depending on who's up/down.

Always amazes me how many people just accept ‘sorry police said no’.

The police don’t have the power to say what the capacity of our stadium should be.
They may have an input within the SAG but they need to justify that and the club can challenge any decision that’s made that could affect its business and it’s income. What are they expecting to happen with 6000 that won’t happen with 5000?

I guess while games aren’t selling out it isn’t an issue.

 

[pusbccfc]

under Coleman there was half a season when the home fans were behind that goal, and the away fans were pushed into the corner
Whilst we are under- capacity, that doesnt make financial sense, but if we ever got to the PL, there is no reason why they could not to that again - That concourse can be split in 2 like it has before

Arguably, Boddy and King don't have a clue about the concourse/ground set up because they weren't here when it's been done in the past.

 

[Nick]

Always amazes me how many people just accept ‘sorry police said no’.

The police don’t have the power to say what the capacity of our stadium should be.
They may have an input within the SAG but they need to justify that and the club can challenge any decision that’s made that could affect its business and it’s income. What are they expecting to happen with 6000 that won’t happen with 5000?

I guess while games aren’t selling out it isn’t an issue.

The SAG do have authority, don't they?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Always amazes me how many people just accept ‘sorry police said no’.

The police don’t have the power to say what the capacity of our stadium should be.
They may have an input within the SAG but they need to justify that and the club can challenge any decision that’s made that could affect its business and it’s income. What are they expecting to happen with 6000 that won’t happen with 5000?

I guess while games aren’t selling out it isn’t an issue.

No one just accepts it. With increased numbers comes increased risk. I did ask is it because they will charge more or genuine risk
The answer was it’s not about cost.
If you genuinely think the club just lies and twists information to suit their purposes when it means they lose potential revenue then I don’t suspect what anyone will say on the matter will ever change your opinion

 

[shmmeee]

No one just accepts it. With increased numbers comes increased risk. I did ask is it because they will charge more or genuine risk
The answer was it’s not about cost.
If you genuinely think the club just lies and twists information to suit their purposes when it means they lose potential revenue then I don’t suspect what anyone will say on the matter will ever change your opinion

Stage entire problem with the SAG is that they’re way too risk averse, so we’ve already mitigated any increase in risk and then some. Someone needs to make the argument for a clear headed assessment of policy impact from a data driven perspective instead of a room of people coming up with scary stories.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Arguably, Boddy and King don't have a clue about the concourse/ground set up because they weren't here when it's been done in the past.

They may know slightly more than you one would suspect. From memory crewe fans were in block 1 in the main stand weren’t they and so city fans were all behind the goal. Don’t know about mixing in the concourse. Seemed like a genuinely reasonable argument to me. Opinions are fun evidence based challenge is more fun. Give me to the proof of your assertion and I’ll follow it up
Becomes an issue when it’s full
Fact is the fans on both sides who behaved like twats at the derby game caused decisions to be made to close the block

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Stage entire problem with the SAG is that they’re way too risk averse, so we’ve already mitigated any increase in risk and then some. Someone needs to make the argument for a clear headed assessment of policy impact from a data driven perspective instead of a room of people coming up with scary stories.

Db kept saying sag don’t make this decision as it’s about numbers and not safety
It’s a police decision to limit the visiting fan numbers to less than 6000 based on many variables
You are correct about evidence based decision making

 

[AOM]

Sorry, just read the questions. Most seem to be for the benefit of the individual supporters clubs rather than the wider ccfc fans. Appreciate they're serving their members, but makes them appear insular and thinking about 'what's in it for me' attitude.

I think the questions raised from Skybluestalk and CCLSC were actually reasonable, valid questions, but yeah some of the questions raised by other groups are just bizarre...
Like those Corporate Members queries or wasting a question on a hypothetical Wembley situation

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

In what sense, and how did that impact on the dynamic between the pair of them?

Handing over questions
Dk questioning micro level details but also not being aware of capacity and concourse stuff
It’s only an observation.
It was quite tricky to read signals attempting to chair and take notes - love how people want to come and air their views but can’t be arsed to do anything to help

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I think the questions raised from Skybluestalk and CCLSC were actually reasonable, valid questions, but yeah some of the questions raised by other groups are just bizarre...
Like those Corporate Members queries or wasting a question on a hypothetical Wembley situation

Bizarre yep. Not sure a terms of reference has ever been agreed
The funniest thing was I walked straight up to the room and at about 4:50 no one was there so I phoned Dave who was just arriving
I went down to reception and everyone was waiting for someone from the arena to take them up!
No one challenged me I just said hi to everyone and it clearly looked like I knew where I was going
The question of dress and supporters clubs getting something for nothing were frustrating but not overly so
The club and players are hugely supportive of events and giving things and appearances

 

[fernandopartridge]

Handing over questions
Dk questioning micro level details but also not being aware of capacity and concourse stuff
It’s only an observation.
It was quite tricky to read signals attempting to chair and take notes - love how people want to come and air their views but can’t be arsed to do anything to help

Boddy is the CEO - surely he's aware of all of the relevant information pertaining to how he might best commercially exploit the stadium.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

- love how people want to come and air their views but can’t be arsed to do anything to help

This is a strange comment when I've asked a question based on something you said.

 

[pusbccfc]

They may know slightly more than you one would suspect. From memory crewe fans were in block 1 in the main stand weren’t they and so city fans were all behind the goal. Don’t know about mixing in the concourse. Seemed like a genuinely reasonable argument to me. Opinions are fun evidence based challenge is more fun. Give me to the proof of your assertion and I’ll follow it up
Becomes an issue when it’s full
Fact is the fans on both sides who behaved like twats at the derby game caused decisions to be made to close the block

Didn't mean it personally. Doug hasn't been here when we've needed to open the South Stand.

In fact, Boddy was here when we had the community day against Gillingham and used the South Stand.

 

[SBT]

love how people want to come and air their views but can’t be arsed to do anything to help

Let someone else do your job then.

 

[Boosh]

Let someone else do your job then.

Neither of my questions were asked anyway.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Neither of my questions were asked anyway.

Tbf they'd be along the lines of when Miley Cyrus was leading the team out with a singalong

 

[Grendel]

Tbf they'd be along the lines of when Miley Cyrus was leading the team out with a singalong

Probably better than the questions asked to be fair

 

[Boosh]

Tbf they'd be along the lines of when Miley Cyrus was leading the team out with a singalong

How amazing would that be. I did find it weird in America that they played an American football match in the middle of a Rhianna concert though

 

[MAFF]

Feel the fact the stadium deal is not imminent is being overlooked somewhat...

 

[Deleted member 5849]

he asked for help not a reposition

What help does he want then?

 

[SBT]

he asked for help not a reposition. as far as I can see Pete is the only one who's engaging with the club. should be appreciated

I would say that if having to listen to fans who want to “air their views” (or in this case, ask a question) but don’t want to help out is something that bothers you, maybe being a fan rep isn’t your ideal job.

Anyway, who else has been invited to engage with the club? I don’t remember how this current set-up came about, was there a vote?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Let someone else do your job then.

Sorry wasn’t whinging at anyone on here but at the forum with the club
I genuinely think they’d have been fine with no notes of what was said.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Boddy is the CEO - surely he's aware of all of the relevant information pertaining to how he might best commercially exploit the stadium.

Agreed

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

This is a strange comment when I've asked a question based on something you said.

Sorry my friend
Was about the meeting itself no one on here
Everyone in here (some exceptions some of the time) engages and makes the effort and have done their own representing and asking and challenging as I know you have
Am trying to work out the full reply to you on a public forum where I know the club are looking

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Neither of my questions were asked anyway.

Which were they, were they serious ones?

 

[Boosh]

Which were they, were they serious ones?

yeah but I guess the club can’t do anything about the toilets and the women’s team has probably been answered a million times.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

he asked for help not a reposition. as far as I can see Pete is the only one who's engaging with the club. should be appreciated

It was more a reflection
Colin chairs and I take notes
Colin not available so I agree to chair and ask by email and verbally for someone to make notes and no one volunteers
Bizarre
Suppose it’s the same the world over - people expect an opinion and a voice but ask them to do something a little different and it’s oh no I can’t
Some reps were whinging about the date and the time. Bizarre

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

yeah but I guess the club can’t do anything about the toilets and the women’s team has probably been answered a million times.

Ah no they were serious sorry
I’ll go back about the womens team I think you’re wrong about the toilets

 

[Boosh]

Ah no they were serious sorry
I’ll go back about the womens team I think you’re wrong about the toilets

Fair enough, nice one Pete

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Sorry my friend
Was about the meeting itself no one on here
Everyone in here (some exceptions some of the time) engages and makes the effort and have done their own representing and asking and challenging as I know you have
Am trying to work out the full reply to you on a public forum where I know the club are looking

Ok, well next forum's question is whether the club is happy for reps to offer their interpretation of these meetings without it affecting access.