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fernandopartridge

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Who chose to leave while loudly slagging off the other party and saying we’d be far better off out of it?

Politicians representing the UK government at the time who are different from the ones who will be representing the UK government in any application to rejoin. The reasons for enforcing a requirement to join the single currency cannot be just spite, so what are the others?
 

skybluetony176

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What's changed and does that not indicate that a lot of the suspicions about the EU (ever closer union) are or were well-founded?
This is just bollocks. We and Denmark have a veto (or did in our case) on joining the Euro. You know that, you ain’t that stupid that you didn’t. Suspicion nothing, you knew we’d lose the veto, that’s a consequence of your vote. Well founded my arse.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Politicians representing the UK government at the time who are different from the ones who will be representing the UK government in any application to rejoin. The reasons for enforcing a requirement to join the single currency cannot be just spite, so what are the others?

Securing the currency with what for now at least is still a powerful economy.
 

skybluetony176

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It’s not about spite, it’s about leverage.
Personally I would hope that the EU would allow us to return on the same footing we left, there’s no obligation though. There’s also the issue of sovereignty of the other members. The members sovereign parliaments has a vote on who can join, if you’re one of the members that joined after Maastricht who never had the option of the veto why would you vote for the UK to join after you with a veto. The other members could scupper it. We were in a very privileged position within the EU, shame we didn’t appreciate it at the time. Out as it turned out did indeed mean out.
 

clint van damme

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Uncovered by his own defence team, who were obliged to report it.

Comedy gold!

Obliged because he'd got the cabinet office to pay his legal fees and so technically they were his lawyers employer.

Subtitled video with that laughing Spanish bloke incoming.........
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Personally I would hope that the EU would allow us to return on the same footing we left, there’s no obligation though. There’s also the issue of sovereignty of the other members. The members sovereign parliaments has a vote on who can join, if you’re one of the members that joined after Maastricht who never had the option of the veto why would you vote for the UK to join after you with a veto. The other members could scupper it. We were in a very privileged position within the EU, shame we didn’t appreciate it at the time. Out as it turned out did indeed mean out.
No way would we have the same conditions offered if we looked to rejoin. Wouldn't send a good message to other members that they could leave and just come back and have it as good as before.
 

clint van damme

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Cruella keeps her job, Johnson on about seeing the cabinet office.

These fuckers are box office, absute state of them.
Meanwhile food inflation still over 19%!
 

Grendel

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I don’t think the country will rejoin the EU but I think it’ll be part of EEA, which it should have done anyway.

interesting if labour put that in a manifesto
 

Grendel

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Cruella keeps her job, Johnson on about seeing the cabinet office.

These fuckers are box office, absute state of them.
Meanwhile food inflation still over 19%!

Braverman is clearly a divisive character but what actually is the crime here
 

skybluetony176

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Cruella keeps her job, Johnson on about seeing the cabinet office.

These fuckers are box office, absute state of them.
Meanwhile food inflation still over 19%!
He’s in such a position of weakness. He can’t sack her as he needs too because he’ll lose the lunatics in the party and the sensible fringe is so small he probably can’t see the summer out. He’s completely hamstrung. If he sacks her he’ll be facing a vote of no confidence and he knows it. Which actually is probably something that she’ll welcome as it will hand her the opportunity to run for the leadership.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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He’s in such a position of weakness. He can’t sack her as he needs too because he’ll lose the lunatics in the party and the sensible fringe is so small he probably can’t see the summer out. He’s completely hamstrung. If he sacks her he’ll be facing a vote of no confidence and he knows it. Which actually is probably something that she’ll welcome as it will hand her the opportunity to run for the leadership.

4 Prime Ministers in one term but no election, that’d surely be a record
 

clint van damme

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Braverman is clearly a divisive character but what actually is the crime here

A bit of do as I say not as I do, same with Johnson .
She clearly did request a private course, hence her refusal to deny it.
Probably not a massive issue in the grand scheme of things, but they had to settle for getting Capone for tax avoidance!
 

clint van damme

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He’s in such a position of weakness. He can’t sack her as he needs too because he’ll lose the lunatics in the party and the sensible fringe is so small he probably can’t see the summer out. He’s completely hamstrung. If he sacks her he’ll be facing a vote of no confidence and he knows it. Which actually is probably something that she’ll welcome as it will hand her the opportunity to run for the leadership.

It's such a fractured party. And it's not just 2 factions either, there seems to be several.
 

Grendel

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A bit of do as I say not as I do, same with Johnson .
She clearly did request a private course, hence her refusal to deny it.
Probably not a massive issue in the grand scheme of things, but they had to settle for getting Capone for tax avoidance!

I can't believe people like Elton John, Prince William or Keir Starmer would go to some Community Hall for a course. It would make it a circus. When Gods spokesperson the UK The Very Reverend Justin Welby seemingly just "forgot" to pay his fines at all yet can lecture us from the House Of Lords - If she took the FPN is that actually not also it seems for some a resigning matter?
 

clint van damme

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I think anyone calling for a minister to resign over a fixed penalty is stretching it.
To be honest, I wouldn't know what the protocol is for a senior politician to do the awareness course, it sounds as though isn't to approach the civil service for a private one though.
 

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