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Not the fact he's a duplicitous lying cock, then?
stupot07
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It's a big conspiracy to overturn Brexit apparently..
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David O'Day
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yes, yes it doesThe British government does not need to borrow money
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we're not going back to that weird fucking tax doesn't matter nonsense you believe again
you can believe whatever economically illiterate nonsense you want
David O'Day
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yes that is what is going to happen
Flying Fokker
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Boris Johnson announces he’s standing down as MP and insists 'I did NOT lie'
BORIS Johnson last night threw in the towel as an MP with a howl of rage – insisting “I did not lie”. The ex-PM branded the Partygate probe a “kangaroo court” and a &#…
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Anyway, Dorries quits one of the safest Tory seats at the same time as Johnson says he's leaving the Commons... for the moment.
Surely not(!)
Surely not(!)
David O'Day
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skybluetony176
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That’s the thing. It’s bigger than saving the planet now. It’s energy security, it’s tackling the cost of energy production to avoid hyperinflation caused by external factors such as a a lunatic invading another country because he thinks he has the upper hand because Europe needs oil and gas. It’s taking back power from Russia without kicking their Tory party out of power.
Borrowing for investment isn’t a flawed strategy so long as it’s not buying PPE off your mates. We should be investing and developing in tidal power and green hydrogen production now. It’s aspirational and staking the UK’s place in the world. We’re uniquely placed in Europe being an island with one of the longest coastlines in Europe littered with small islands and estuaries ideal for tidal power generation. It just needs vision and determination to deliver it and Labour took a step back from that today. Some may argue that they’re still steps ahead of other parties and they may well be right but it doesn’t change the fact that Labour took a step backwards.
David O'Day
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it's being slightly delayed, that's all
skybluetony176
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Boris to set up his own political party. First seat he stands for will be Nads old seat. You watch. You heard it here first.
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God I hope he does, he'd split the Tory vote and send them into oblivion as happened with the Liberals in the 1920s
David O'Day
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stupid if he does
skybluetony176
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The problem is I never thought it went far enough in the first place. We’re at a turning point for the world and as I say it’s bigger than save the planet.
David O'Day
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that might even let labour or the lib dems have a chance
please let their be a right wing change uk just for the bants
David O'Day
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fair enough but implementing it in 2017 not 2014 isn't going to change much
skybluetony176
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It will be called something like the All British People’s Party. Or something similar.
skybluetony176
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After the Suez crisis the Scandinavian countries banged their heads together because they realised that they were too vulnerable to oil imports and started developing renewables within the the constraints of their geography. Our geography is far more suitable to a far wider range of renewables. Power could be our biggest export and a driver of our economy. Delaying investment is also delaying growth, delaying addressing the trade deficit, delaying future proofing, delaying levelling up especially. Starmer is missing out on selling a vision.
fernandopartridge
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The government could not possibly pay for its day to day spending relying on tax. Yet it can do without borrowing, how could this possibly happen? You fundamentally misunderstand money. The government is not a currency user like you or I.
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Running the economy the way we have is why the environments fucked.
skybluetony176
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Going by the rhetoric in his statement I can’t work out if the partygate committee findings are much worse than anyone thought so he’s getting in early weaponising playing the victim to further his political career or if it’s not as bad as expected so he’s getting in early weaponising playing the victim to further his political career.
fernandopartridge
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skybluetony176
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Rumours now starting to circulate of Boris cultists… err I mean loyalists resigning in solidarity. Don’t think they’ll be enough to trigger a GE if any at all but if they do start resigning as MP’s it’s not good for Sunak.
Grendel
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Blown what?
rob9872
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Boris resigning still gets more traction on here and in the press than the current government or the opposition. You might hate him,but more charisma than the rest put together. Not a chance this is the last we've heard of him. Wouldn't be surprised to see him have another crack at Mayor then come back again in 5 years.
JAM See
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See also Jimmy Saville, Rod Hull, that Australian fella that played the didgeridoo, and Jim Davidson.
They all fell from grace in the end (apart from Rod, who fell from his roof).
Charisma does not equal gravitas.
Grendel
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Rod hull?!
rob9872
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What a bizarre take
Finham
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You have a very different notion of charisma to me-or to people who lost relatives with Covid whilst he partied and mocked attempts to hold him to account. Horrible, horrible man. Tonight is just him playing at Trump with his "kangaroo court" claims. So hard done by, poor Boris...sure he'll earn enough to sweeten his departure.
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shmmeee
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duffer
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The bloke is a proven liar. He literally took the piss as both an MP and a PM because as well as being mendacious he's also staggeringly lazy.
He's run the most corrupt, cronyist, and incompetent government in living history.
But he's a bit of laugh, enjoys a bit of casual, dog-whistle racism, and knows a bit of Latin, so he must be the right bloke to run the country.
I don't blame Boris, he's always been a liar and a chancer and always will be - but the idiots who vote for him because he's got 'charisma' really need to think a bit harder about what sort of person he really is.
duffer
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It's ridiculous to say that we can't find 28bn to invest in green infrastructure when we can afford 110bn (and rising) on HS2.
We're running out of time, and fast. We can either make the economics start to work for all of us and the planet, or we can let the very rich get a bit richer and get a bit of trickle down for the rest of us whilst the environment deteriorates beyond rescue.
Labour, or at least this Starmer centrist version, terrified of what The Daily Mail might say about them, are not the answer. More of the same isn't going to help.
Being slightly better than the current government is the lowest possible bar, and it's literally all that Labour are capable of offering at the moment.
This.
Oh look at him and his scruffy hair, he's just like one of us! And remember when he acted the buffoon on HIGNFY or when he got stuck on a zip wire? Hahah good old Boris. In fact, let's make him bloody PM!
lifeskyblue
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