Cluster shells, different to bombs, but glad, Russia have been using cluster shells and bombs since a week into the war, the cluster munitions will make up for lack of artillery shells the world currently has.
It’s a difficult one. On one hand they’re very effective but also like you point out they remain live after the war has ended. Worth pointing out though that so do the miles upon miles of mines that Russia has been planting all winter in defensive preparation which is as I understand it is why they’re being sent there in the first place. Cluster bombs are very effective at clearing minefields.
They’re horrific full stop and it’ll be innocent people, both Ukrainians and Russians, who will be killed by them. They’re also being sent by a country that has no issues with invading other countries in recent times and, according to what I know, the only country to ever have used a nuclear bomb.
Well Russia shouldn’t have invaded then should they? Stop being a putin cock sucker, and get behind Ukraine, I mean after all they have just turned the west biggest enemy into a military with less power than the uk alone, for all I care send Ukraine anything they want, fair game.
You're a fucking idiot.
Bla bla bla, Ukraine are a defending country, they should sit down and negotiate when they’re ready, I bet you would been crying for Churchill to negotiate with hitler back then. I think the term is “You’re a fucking coward”
Yeah because wanting to avoid suffering death and suffering makes someone a coward. I actually have firsthand experience of the suffering around the situation going back to events in 2014, whereas you're clearly just immature and treating it like one of your computer games.
Don’t cry sy, I’m literally in the border with Ukraine
, affects me more than you.
Just some entertainment for you.
The point is, is that neither side is will likely to win the war, IMO, so it’s essentially going to be years of innocent people going to their deaths on both sides. It’ll be inevitable that it’ll end in negotiations.
It wasn't referencing everyone. Personally, I think Putin is a c**t and i'd like Russia out of Ukraine but I don't see how either side is going to win. Most of the Russians going to fight are probably just young and scared and don't actually want to be there...and they probably don't exactly know what they're fighting for at this point.
Yeah, I don't disagree with that but I imagine the Americans have already been speaking with the Russians to move towards negotiations. The notion that it'll only be when 'Ukraine is ready' is just naive - it'll be when the USA thinks Ukraine has the upper-hand to go into them to get the best terms possible.
Fair point. I actually think that could end up being the case within the next year or so.
Don’t cry sy, I’m literally in the border with Ukraine
Back in Hungary for a few weeks, visiting Mrs family and Balaton, then Cov at the end of July then back, perks of WFH I can do it anywhere, need to go office like once a month.
As Biden said as well it’s simply so they can catch up with the 155mm shells as the world is running out of them, no one was prepared for a war of this scale, give it 2/3 months and it will be 200k 155mm shells a week going to Ukraine not 10k
