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SIR ERNIE

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Talk of him being irreplaceable, retiring his shirt number, best in 20 years etc is crazy.
Yes he was excellent from Dec to May, arguably the best in the division.
For the 18 months prior his form was patchy and frustrating with very poor discipline. He was frequently called a liability.
Hope he stays but seems unlikely and no guarantee he will continue as he finished last season.
 

SBT

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Talk of him being irreplaceable, retiring his shirt number, best in 20 years etc is crazy.
Yes he was excellent from Dec to May, arguably the best in the division.
For the 18 months prior his form was patchy and frustrating with very poor discipline. He was frequently called a liability.
Hope he stays but seems unlikely and no guarantee he will continue as he finished last season.
I think the bigger problem is that we rarely looked like a playoffs-calibre team without Gus firing on all cylinders. Sell him and we have to fix that, there isn’t an obvious answer.
 

Fysnkysc

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Talk of him being irreplaceable, retiring his shirt number, best in 20 years etc is crazy.
Yes he was excellent from Dec to May, arguably the best in the division.
For the 18 months prior his form was patchy and frustrating with very poor discipline. He was frequently called a liability.
Hope he stays but seems unlikely and no guarantee he will continue as he finished last season.
Him being injured cost us the prem, if he don’t get injured we beat Luton, that’s how important he is, as soon as he went off our attacking threat was gone.
 

SIR ERNIE

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Him being injured cost us the prem, if he don’t get injured we beat Luton, that’s how important he is, as soon as he went off our attacking threat was gone.
Maybe, maybe not.
We had the chances to win it after he went off.
 

Grendel

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We ain’t busting it when simms is on 25k a week (rumoured wage), so why would it be busting out wage when he is the best player this club has seen for 20 years 😂

There is no evidence Simms is on anything like that sort of money
 

Fysnkysc

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I doubt the view outside the Brittania is particularly interesting on a Monday morning
One up from the brittania 😂, but even if that’s the case I don’t claim to stay in a lavish hotel, why would I?
What’s the saying the rich don’t stay rich by spending money on shit?

has a window, has a bed, has tv and ac that’s all I need, :).

many way love to stay and chat but I got family to visit :)
 

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Otis

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I thought this was just you and me, and now you're bringing your friends.
While we're on the personal questions, what height are you lying down? Are you happy with pine, or would you rather splash out on something like oak?

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Cremation for me, pal. No worm, flesh-eating.

A jam jar will do just fine.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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Yeah that’s a great strategy - commit nearly £5 million of wages to a player who could lose form or suffer a severe injury

Thank christ you aren’t running the club

He still wouldn’t sign it anyway
Well we've just comitteed more that that on Simms in transfer fees and wages on a player who could be crap or get a severe injury tomorrow.

Only difference is we know Hamer is good, and are hoping Simms will be good
 

Grendel

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Well we've just comitteed more that that on Simms in transfer fees and wages on a player who could be crap or get a severe injury tomorrow.

Only difference is we know Hamer is good, and are hoping Simms will be good

We have no idea what Simms wages are - and again he would not sign the deal anyway
 

Fysnkysc

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You are joking! Godden had a bang on open goal 3 minutes after Hamer scored; it just went over the bar! That would have killed Luton off
Don’t recall if it was 3 mins after hamers goal I was probably still celebrating + you said after hamer goal but we’re strictly talking after hamer went off.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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We have no idea what Simms wages are - and again he would not sign the deal anyway
He's gonna be a top earner and at least £3.5 million in transfer fee, reckless going by your logic as we've committed well over £5 million of the budget to a player who might not perform or could get a long term injury.

He may well have not signed it and its all hypothetical but your reasoning doesn't make sense
 

Grendel

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He's gonna be a top earner and at least £3.5 million in transfer fee, reckless going by your logic as we've committed well over £5 million of the budget to a player who might not perform or could get a long term injury.

He may well have not signed it and its all hypothetical but your reasoning doesn't make sense

Of course it makes sense. Simms has agreed to come here and commit as a player

Hamer has expressed that he wants to leave and can if he gets a move get wages in access of what we can offer. We can also then get funds back if we sell him to re-build the squad and replace him
 

Grendel

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SkyBlue_Bear83

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You're changing your argument now to suit, you were suggesting it would be insane of the club to commit £5 million of the budget to keep Hamer as he could get injured or loss of form. I don't think it would be insane and would be a good investment


If he won't sign, he won't sign and we need to get the maximum value from him now.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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But you can't as he wants to leave. So you maximise the opportunity at sale
Yea so you sell and maximise the transfer fee, but you were suggesting it would be madness from the clubs side to to invest £5 million to try and keep him. If the budget was available which we don't even know then I think you could spend £5 million in a lot of worse ways.
 

Grendel

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You're changing your argument now to suit, you were suggesting it would be insane of the club to commit £5 million of the budget to keep Hamer as he could get injured or loss of form. I don't think it would be insane and would be a good investment


If he won't sign, he won't sign and we need to get the maximum value from him now.

I'm not changing my argument

1. I don't think you can break your wage budget rules for 1 player anyway and certainly not £30k
2. The notion of a clause is ridiculous if we do not get promotion for someone you are committing a large percentage of salary to
3. Robins clearly has said he wants to go so he needs to be gone asap
 

Grendel

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Yea so you sell and maximise the transfer fee, but you were suggesting it would be madness from the clubs side to to invest £5 million to try and keep him. If the budget was available which we don't even know then I think you could spend £5 million in a lot of worse ways.

Yes it would be madness as its a far higher wage than we would pay under our budget to retain his services - its not £5 million its £5 million plus his immediate resale fee which can now be used to invest in the squad
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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He’d get 40 grand a week as a squad player in a premier league club and a 3 or 4 year deal and if he leaves for free he’d be able to negotiate even more
Has to wait another season to do that and risks getting O'Hare'd in the mean time.
 

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