Matty godden (3 Viewers)
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stupot07
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Which I guess backs up what we're saying. In that we know that he doesn't contribute much to our general play, and is in for his finishing. But he isn't finishing the good chances he is getting. And my point which was he isn't scoring the crucial match winning goals at the minute - football is often about the fine margins and big moments.
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Frostie
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In terms of free sites, FotMob & particularly FBRef are your best bets.Thanks for clarifying
What site you using so I can keep it on my pc
The Philosopher
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Ok.
I think I kind of get it. Is that his conversion rate per quality opportunity?
Edit: I’ve read other poster comments above.
I guess each “good opportunity” is subjective to some degree.
Frostie
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Think there's a fair debate about what he offers other than goals. I think his role has changed a bit with the way we're playing now - especially in the absence of O'Hare but what's undeniable is his finishing isn't at his usual standard. This is the first time since we've been back in the Championship that he hasn't outperformed his xG.
clint van damme
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The fine margin against Millwall and Hull was Simon Moore playing like a pitch invader.
The Philosopher
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Is a penalty some kind of 90% XG or don’t they get counted like that?
Evo1883
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I also feel that his workrate is often overlooked too , but hey .. some people say that's just running
stupot07
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Great what about the other 22 games he's played in?
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Evo1883
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So we are now at , godden has been shit every match he's played in ?
Think we are bordering on bizarre now
clint van damme
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I've said I think we need to move him on, but to assess his contribution in the way you have is fairly strange, it's hardly his fault the keeper fucked up badly.
stupot07
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That's not what I've said at all. You're seeing something that isn't there. That's more bizarre
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SBAndy
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If he’s performing at -0.13 per game (haven’t checked the stats so hopefully I’m assuming this correctly) that’s basically equating to a big chance every 2 games he’s missing (think ‘big chance’ is usually 0.3). I do take into account the later comments around his work rate and that’s fair. I suppose if we don’t have goals spread throughout the team we can’t really afford to carry someone renowned for his finishing who’s not delivering.
I don’t dislike Godden, think he’s served us very well over time, but it feels like the right time to accept he’s the next to fall by the wayside (whether out the door or down the pecking order).
steve cooper
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surprisingly it's 0.76%
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Isn't it as much Robins trusts him based on past performances? He's clearly got a good attitude too - it's him and Dabo were the indispensables, you can probably add Allen to that list now as well, players that do exactly what they're asked to do, put their hands up even if not 100% fit, and keep going for the team even if in a dip.
I dunno, maybe Walker didn't react in the right way after his start against Blackpool too. Maybe Godden scoring won him the place and Walker has reacted badly to that? I dunno.
As a small aside, if Gyokeres leaves then maybe Godden will work better with whoever replaces him, too. It's not all Godden being anonymous, it's also a system that isn't playing to Godden's strengths.
Skybluedownunder
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Wouldn’t mind seeing Liam Delap or Cole Palmer come on loan. Liam hasn’t really had a proper run at Preston and just coming on here and there, scored bags of goals in the Man City U’23s. Cole Palmer not getting game time in the first team obviously so will probably need to go out on loan next season.
It’s all well and good looking at their stats and saying yeah they have played this many games but only scored this many goals but it’s not a clear picture as he’s only playing 5 mins a game so it throws their stats out. They’ve both bagged a serious amount of goals in youth leagues so they’ve got the eye for goal but just not getting the minutes.
Sometimes the right management can get the best out of a player like we’ve been mentioning on this forum recently and perhaps Adi & Robbins could do for someone like Delap what they did with Gyokeres.
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Delap has been terrible for Stoke and Preston.
That's not to say that Robins couldn't get a tune out of him, as you say. But he has been genuinely rubbish even if you ignore the stats.
Matt smith
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Matty godden could leave in the summer
past his best and anonymous most weeks this season
he’ll do as a fourth choice mind
past his best and anonymous most weeks this season
he’ll do as a fourth choice mind
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Skybluedownunder
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It’s weird that it’s not gone so well for him at these clubs when he was so prolific going up through the ages. He’s not getting the minutes at Preston so it’s hard to judge him when he’s only getting 5 mins here and there, I couldn’t seem to get the stats on him of what he did at Stoke but him and Cole Palmer were supposed to both be very highly regarded at Man City. Did Delap have a few stinkers did he? Sometimes you just feel if someone is so highly regarded have they just had the wrong manager with them and could we do what we did with Gyokeres and it was just a case of wrong place wrong time.
But yeah my preference would be to take a gamble loan on a young up and coming who’s been banging them in for the U21s/U23s who needs the next step up challenge like we did with Adam Armstrong, he had a real Shearer style of play he did, great to watch when we had him.
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Ccfcisparks
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Agreed played fantastic, him and Wright look really good partnership.
Jamesimus
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Proved today that he's not just a goal scorer. He was heavily involved at Leicester too. Looks fit and ready.
Evo1883
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Could turn out to be a big player for us this season , on that form
That's 2 in 3 already , will hit 15 plus if he stays fit and plays
Martin180
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Was talking Simms and Wright through the game , they will both improve playing alongside him
Frostie
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Very good today.
As others have said, he just looks that bit sharper. Obviously helps that he's playing more his natural role again now too rather than a foil for Vik.
Was never worried about the missed chances, good strikers always come through patches like that. Still not keen on the fingers in ears but can understand his thoughts.
As others have said, he just looks that bit sharper. Obviously helps that he's playing more his natural role again now too rather than a foil for Vik.
Was never worried about the missed chances, good strikers always come through patches like that. Still not keen on the fingers in ears but can understand his thoughts.
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stupot07
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To be fair that's his first goal from open play since Millwall last season, which was 573 minutes before todays goal, and for someone who has to play because he's the man you want on the end of a chance, he's missed some really good chances in that period. He played well today, but he needs to back it up now.
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covcity4life
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Invovled more than usual which for me was my main concern usually. Does seem fitter too. Good stuff
Glad he got the two goals. Matty Godden has been one of my favourite players of the last few years, and possibly in my top 5 ever, and was sensational in our League One promotion campaign.
Saying that, what’s with the fingers in the ears celebration? If it’s because a couple of bad eggs on twitter (sorry…X) were giving him a bit of abuse for not scoring against Leicester then it’s a shitty way to celebrate in front of 24k fans, the majority of which love him.
Saying that, what’s with the fingers in the ears celebration? If it’s because a couple of bad eggs on twitter (sorry…X) were giving him a bit of abuse for not scoring against Leicester then it’s a shitty way to celebrate in front of 24k fans, the majority of which love him.
Paul Anthony
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Credit to him today, he did very well. Hopefully that's just what he needed to get him back to his best form.