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Sky Blue Pete

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That’s nice for Trump, but when you lost the previous election to the same guy by 74 electoral college votes, it’s not going to help you win in 2024.
Maybe maybe not - Biden needs certain groups to back him and he’s not maybe done everything they hoped
 

SBT

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African Caribbean mainly
Do you mean African-Americans? I don’t think there’s a huge Afro-Caribbean population in the US.

Black voters are typically the demographic group most hostile to Trump (except for college-educated voters), what makes you think that will change?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Do you mean African-Americans? I don’t think there’s a huge Afro-Caribbean population in the US.

Black voters are typically the demographic group most hostile to Trump (except for college-educated voters), what makes you think that will change?
I do yep what a banana! Sorry
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Do you mean African-Americans? I don’t think there’s a huge Afro-Caribbean population in the US.

Black voters are typically the demographic group most hostile to Trump (except for college-educated voters), what makes you think that will change?
They haven’t seen what they expected first term so may not turn out
 

SBT

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They haven’t seen what they expected first term so may not turn out
I think apathy towards Biden will definitely be a problem for him, but I think the hatred/fear of Trump will continue to be a motivating factor, especially among moderate voters, and there is no way for Trump to escape that when he has four different criminal trials dominating the headlines for the next 18 months.
 
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Nothing fundamentally awful will happen with the world it’s just another tinpot democracy being taken over by populism
Not sure whether you meant this seriously.

I think democracy in the US would under threat if Trump won again. Even more concerning though is his policies would turbo charge climate change and I would trust him to act responsibly with regard to the development of AI.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Not sure whether you meant this seriously.

I think democracy in the US would under threat if Trump won again. Even more concerning though is his policies would turbo charge climate change and I would trust him to act responsibly with regard to the development of AI.
Was serious
Climate change is here - only when it bangs him and a majority of people in the face will they take notice so don’t worry until then
AI genie already out the box
 

shmmeee

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Not sure whether you meant this seriously.

I think democracy in the US would under threat if Trump won again. Even more concerning though is his policies would turbo charge climate change and I would trust him to act responsibly with regard to the development of AI.

I don’t think there’s anything any government can do about AI TBH. Can’t censor computer code or limit access to GPUs.

The climate stuff worries me. The number of troll accounts like James Melville and le Tissier pivoting to anti ULEZ/electric car/net zero stuff suggests there’s an inflection point coming where we need to hold fast.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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Was serious
Climate change is here - only when it bangs him and a majority of people in the face will they take notice so don’t worry until then
AI genie already out the box
Yes climate change is already here but it can get very much worse very quickly if we take the wrong decisions which Trump undoubtedly would.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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I’m resigned to it. Too few people give a shit and even less when it means they may have to make sacrifices so what can you do
That apathy is exactly what we need to overcome, but of course Trump will do the opposite. Most people if they understood fully would see the urgency for radical action to tackle the issue. Of course there will always be those who don't care less as long as they can do what they want to do.
 

SBAndy

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That apathy is exactly what we need to overcome, but of course Trump will do the opposite. Most people if they understood fully would see the urgency for radical action to tackle the issue. Of course there will always be those who don't care less as long as they can do what they want to do.

Almost need to (rather cynically) demonstrate that you can’t be both anti-immigration and anti-environment. One will quite clearly lead to the other. As ever, though, everyone’s too scared to call out these morons on their stance.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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That apathy is exactly what we need to overcome, but of course Trump will do the opposite. Most people if they understood fully would see the urgency for radical action to tackle the issue. Of course there will always be those who don't care less as long as they can do what they want to do.
Honestly they won’t they live and move in an echo chamber where anyone who has evidence that challenges their opinions is toxic and part of the woke media or is a liar or a fraud or anti American

it’s not apathy I do all I can but I am resigned to the world waiting till beyond the last possible moment as they are blind to it all
 
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Honestly they won’t they live and move in an echo chamber where anyone who has evidence that challenges their opinions is toxic and part of the woke media or is a liar or a fraud or anti American

it’s not apathy I do all I can but I am resigned to the world waiting till beyond the last possible moment as they are blind to it all
The apathy comment wasn't aimed at you. It was about the people you referred to in your message.
 

hamertime

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I’m resigned to it. Too few people give a shit and even less when it means they may have to make sacrifices so what can you do
I dont think its that people dont give a shit. They just know whatever we do in this country is a drop in the Ocean compared to what China, USA and India produce. For example the whole EU produce less greenhouse gases than 1/3 of China on its own. If the world is going to get serious about it then these countries need to be hit. All your ULEZ rubbish is a tax piggy backed on top of something that looks green so it can wash with the public be under no illusion.

If people could see an actual will to make change in the whole world then the vast majority of people would get on board. Unfortunately atm all we see is a tiny population getting hit disproportionately so they think stuff it.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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I dont think its that people dont give a shit. They just know whatever we do in this country is a drop in the Ocean compared to what China, USA and India produce. For example the whole EU produce less greenhouse gases than 1/3 of China on its own. If the world is going to get serious about it then these countries need to be hit. All your ULEZ rubbish is a tax piggy backed on top of something that looks green so it can wash with the public be under no illusion.

If people could see an actual will to make change in the whole world then the vast majority of people would get on board. Unfortunately atm all we see is a tiny population getting hit disproportionately so they think stuff it.
I was meaning those in the states who are oblivious to issues and likely to be led by trump and his minions who think money is king and climate chaos won’t affect him or his friends
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Me too..... I took my first flight for 6 years this summer as I'm (very nearly) past caring.

Cycling is still my go-to mode of transport, My business has good green credentials & we have an electric car.......but it all amounts to fuck all in the big scheme of things.....

Consumerism, plastics manufacture & throw-away culture is still growing exponentially, Tiktok, bitcoin, netflix & pornhub have a larger combined carbon footprint that the EU, and global population is set to hit 10billion by 2050.....

Its all proper fucked.....so I broke my vow & flew sleazyjet.
Thanks for doing your bit and encouraging others to do theirs. I’m just aware that I can’t control idiots swimming towards a great big waterfall and I know their actions make things more difficult for humanity but I can’t worry about these things or I’d go mad!!
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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Thanks for doing your bit and encouraging others to do theirs. I’m just aware that I can’t control idiots swimming towards a great big waterfall and I know their actions make things more difficult for humanity but I can’t worry about these things or I’d go mad!!

Thought I'd deleted that post in time.....never mind.

Part of my constant battle to stop myself wasting my own precious time posting shite in never ending off-topic discussions on here.....

Frankly, it baffles me how any of you lot hold down a job:cool:
 

shmmeee

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Thanks for doing your bit and encouraging others to do theirs. I’m just aware that I can’t control idiots swimming towards a great big waterfall and I know their actions make things more difficult for humanity but I can’t worry about these things or I’d go mad!!

Thanks Pete, off to reread the Hamer leaving thread to cheer myself up!
 

CCFCSteve

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In the CBS News/YouGov survey, Trump voters were asked to pick who they feel tells them the truth. Trump gathered 71 percent of the vote, friends and family gathered 63 percent, conservative media figures had 56 percent, and religious leaders gathered 42 percent. The poll was conducted between August 16-18 and interviewed 2,061 U.S. adult residents. The margin of error is plus or minus 3 points for the sample overall.

😬 Mental
 

Sky Blue Pete

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In the CBS News/YouGov survey, Trump voters were asked to pick who they feel tells them the truth. Trump gathered 71 percent of the vote, friends and family gathered 63 percent, conservative media figures had 56 percent, and religious leaders gathered 42 percent. The poll was conducted between August 16-18 and interviewed 2,061 U.S. adult residents. The margin of error is plus or minus 3 points for the sample overall.

😬 Mental
Echo chamber populist rules
 

napolimp

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I’m resigned to it. Too few people give a shit and even less when it means they may have to make sacrifices so what can you do

I don't know what the majority of people actually think, maybe it's just one of those "trendy" opinions to have at the moment, which people talk about in social situations because they have a need to feel liked?

Too many times I've listened to people talk of the sad plight of the planet, how concerning it is, and how we must do something about climate change, and then watched them get in their cars and drive 200m to buy a bottle of milk.

Convenience is king.
 

shmmeee

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I don't know what the majority of people actually think, maybe it's just one of those "trendy" opinions to have at the moment, which people talk about in social situations because they have a need to feel liked?

Too many times I've listened to people talk of the sad plight of the planet, how concerning it is, and how we must do something about climate change, and then watched them get in their cars and drive 200m to buy a bottle of milk.

Convenience is king.

You’re never going to get billions of people to act against short term interests. It has to be done on a governmental level. Ban ICE cars, move energy production to renewables, remove gas from heating, encourage sustainable industrial practices. That alone would do wonders. We wasted 40 years on “Hey man, eat less meat and cycle to the shops”
 

clint van damme

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He's made a long-awaited return to Twitter to post NEVER SURRENDER along with a picture of him surrendering



Is that him saying you should never surrender from trying to interfere with elections?
Going to be interesting to see who throws who under the bus, hopefully they all fuck each other up.
 

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