Match Thread vs Cardiff (A) 19/09/23 (15 Viewers)

[Martin180]

Ben sheaf is our best player Martin

Callum O'Hare is the best player

 

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[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Oh wow, things on the forum are getting dumb again. This is dejavu all over again from last season where a load of you had a total breakdown.

Players better step up cause we don't have to best two players in the league to turn it around for us this season

 

[Matt smith]

Was gonna say

 

[Hincha]

Ayari - Kelly
Allen - Palmer
Godden

Would like to see this next game. We carry the strikers because there is no midfield link so may as well pack the middle and seek greater control.

Felt like we've needed the box the last few games but I don't think Robins wants to drop both Wright/Simms because of the pricetag or Godden because he is scoring.

 

[junglej13]

Robins on about a quiet dressing room is the most worrying thing for me. Even ahead of Sheaf out for 6 weeks.

That’s something you absolutely can not have. Even in my limited always hungover when playing Sunday league knowledge.

He has said this in previous seasons as well. He does say some odd things at times. Kitching and Latibeaudiere were captains of their clubs. Surely this is something he would have looked to address in the summer.

He picked the wrong team on Friday night. The subs made us worse. When the players came over at the end it almost felt like a defeat because everyone had had the life sucked out of them from us sitting back all half. How he's picked a similar side today and expected a positive result absolutely dumbfounds me.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Callum O'Hare is the best player

I suspect it will turn out to be vanEwijk, and based in the season so far it's Latibeaudiere.

 

[DrPoolittle]

Yeah I think there’s been a deliberate attempt to move away from the style that worked so well in the second half of last season. That is always going to be a rocky process but I’d still have backed us to do it and be promotion favourites before we sold Gus…my optimism disappeared at that point.

Absolutely. There was an excellent article last year, which reflected on the Cov tactic of chaos theory. The team attacking at speed from all over the pitch, causing concern for the opposition, not knowing where City would break from. Robins is having to adjust and that will take time

 

[shmmeee]

To be fair win Monday and it’s ok again

but we need to win Monday

it’s not must win but it’s a bloody important game

I just want to see some green shoots. A solid clean sheet even, the odd bit of attacking spark, Haji Wright controlling a football, that sort of thing. Long season yet but we need some kind of vision to hang onto. As someone else said we’ve lost our identity. We aren’t a counter attacking team. We aren’t particularly effective in possession. Our flair players don’t seem to fully know where each other is yet. Needs some characters to step up.

 

[Finham]

Too much just passing the ball on and the responsibility to create something-

Yeah Robins alluded to that. Well not alluded, he was very specific.

 

[DrPoolittle]

Ayari - Kelly
Allen - Palmer
Godden

Would like to see this next game. We carry the strikers because there is no midfield link so may as well pack the middle and seek greater control.

Felt like we've needed the box the last few games but I don't think Robins wants to drop both Wright/Simms because of the pricetag or Godden because he is scoring.

I think fielding only 5 players might cost us. Certainly we win the element of surprise but…..over 90 minutes?

 

[Matt smith]

I just want to see some green shoots. A solid clean sheet even, the odd bit of attacking spark, Haji Wright controlling a football, that sort of thing. Long season yet but we need some kind of vision to hang onto. As someone else said we’ve lost our identity. We aren’t a counter attacking team. We aren’t particularly effective in possession. Our flair players don’t seem to fully know where each other is yet. Needs some characters to step up.

Agreed, we lose all idea when we’re in that middle third

 

[Martin180]

I suspect it will turn out to be vanEwijk, and based in the season so far it's Latibeaudiere.

Wouldn't disagree with that and hopefully we can add Simms to the list in a couple of months

 

[Adge]

Jeez-that was a hard watch. Flattering score line of 3-2 when in reality we should have been done and dusted at HT when we managed to get in on terms! Lots of thinking for Robins to do before Huddersfield and I suspect a few changes will be on the cards.

 

[Martin180]

I know it's always a risk but playing Wright in the reserves (whatever age they are ) would surely be an option ?

 

[napolimp]

Players better step up cause we don't have to best two players in the league to turn it around for us this season

"Turn it around" - turn what around? We're 7 games into the season. We've lost twice. You can't exactly turn it around when you haven't gone anywhere yet.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah I think there’s been a deliberate attempt to move away from the style that worked so well in the second half of last season. That is always going to be a rocky process but I’d still have backed us to do it and be promotion favourites before we sold Gus…my optimism disappeared at that point.

The confusing point is he says he wants them to play at a higher tempo and not to move the ball around from side to side. Yet it looks on the pitch like that's what they've been instructed to do.

 

[DrPoolittle]

Jeez-that was a hard watch. Flattering score line of 3-2 when in reality we should have been done and dusted at HT when we managed to get in on terms! Lots of thinking for Robins to do before Huddersfield and I suspect a few changes will be on the cards.

“I suspect a few changes will be on the cards.”

No! Wait, that’s just what they are expecting us to do

 

[pusbccfc]

Huddersfield are 7/2 on Monday for those who want to earn a lot of money.

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Huddersfield are 7/2 on Monday for those who want to earn a lot of money.

Can get us at 18/1 to go down…

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Jeez-that was a hard watch. Flattering score line of 3-2 when in reality we should have been done and dusted at HT when we managed to get in on terms! Lots of thinking for Robins to do before Huddersfield and I suspect a few changes will be on the cards.

'Is the plan to just aimlessly pass from side to side and concede shit goals while Palmer strolls around giving the ball away?'

'How could you possibly know that Blackadder it's classified information!'

 

[pusbccfc]

Can get us at 18/1 to go down…

That's pushing it.

We'll plod along in 16/17th.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

With this new slower way of playing I wonder how Vik would have done as he preferred a ball to chase or into his feet to spin.

 

[Seamus1]

Jeez-that was a hard watch. Flattering score line of 3-2 when in reality we should have been done and dusted at HT when we managed to get in on terms! Lots of thinking for Robins to do before Huddersfield and I suspect a few changes will be on the cards.

That is my wishful thinking. Likelihood being that (with the possible exception of van Ewijk’s injury ruling him out), it will be the same old from Robins. Maybe Simms in for Wright, but still a completely non-descript midfield which creates nothing and offers less resistance to the opposition than a cool summer breeze. Then he might chuck on a striker with 5 minutes to go, and state in the post match interview how we looked more threatening after the change when 2-1 down…

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

With this new slower way of playing I wonder how Vik would have done as he preferred a ball to chase or into his feet to spin.

The run of very poor home form we had for most of 21/22 consisted of the same ponderous slow tempo play where Gyo hardly got a look in. That one thrashing of Sheff Utd was the one game where it was played at a high tempo counter attacking pace.

Gareth Southgate's England look unconvincing playing the same way and that's with the best English players available.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Is this for real? If so it seems like shameless 'othering' from the manager trying to blame and put attention and focus on anything but his team selection and average in game management.

Alright, the dressing room's full of Fred Elliots. I say the dressing room's full of Fred Elliots.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

With this new slower way of playing I wonder how Vik would have done as he preferred a ball to chase or into his feet to spin.

Last year was posting to maximize Gyokeres though, as he deserved it and could carry it

 

[Matt smith]

Did robins say anything on the injury

 

[procdoc]

I’m changing my mind on Palmer. He’s shit and offers very little

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Did robins say anything on the injury

Not on MVE's no. Though he also wasn't asked.

 

[Matt smith]

Not on MVE's no. Though he also wasn't asked.

Hope it’s not bad

 

[covmutley]

Well that was a hard watch. Midfield not existent and gave ball away cheaply. Terrible performance.

Il give some positives though: Allen back on the pitch, sakamoto did well and changed the game, godden scored again despite no service, eer....Coh back at some point... err..and er... there is no way in the world that Wright is as bad as he was tonight. Its just impossible. Forget judging the Turkish league, he had zero control and zero ability to hold up the ball. Don't know if we play wrong system for him or whatever but nobody can actually be that bad.

I thought simms actually showed somewhen he came on. Put the little chop through in the build up to the 2nd goal

 

[coop]

Robins slightly blaming sakamoto for the goal is a joke.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Hope it’s not bad

He limped off but it didn't look too severe from where we were.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

I know it's always a risk but playing Wright in the reserves (whatever age they are ) would surely be an option ?

Robins needs to make it clear that that sort of application isn't acceptable. Same applies to Palmer tonight.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Ayari - Kelly
Allen - Palmer
Godden

Would like to see this next game. We carry the strikers because there is no midfield link so may as well pack the middle and seek greater control.

Felt like we've needed the box the last few games but I don't think Robins wants to drop both Wright/Simms because of the pricetag or Godden because he is scoring.

To be fair that’s exactly why he can’t drop Wright or Simms - imagine having to justify 15m sitting on the bench