USSR invades Ukraine. (53 Viewers)
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Grendel
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Oh for fuck sake
Utter, utter crank.
If people like this are where you and Grendel are getting your news from suddenly it all makes sense.
"In 2014, after the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation and during a conflict with Ukraine over its eastern parts, Macgregor appeared on Russian state-owned network RT where he called for annexation of Donbas"
"Three days after the war began, he said "The battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over," and predicted "If [Ukraine] don't surrender in the next 24 hours, I suspect Russia will ultimately annihilate them." Macgregor said he believed Russia should be allowed to seize whatever parts of Ukraine it wanted."
Although this is really pointless what actually in 2014 happened which was ultimately significant?
Grendel
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I obviously have no idea who you are but I do suspect that you are someone whose always been told you are correct and struggle with challenge
I also suspect have received indulgence from your parents and - I’m guessing - you’ve ended up working in some family business where you are flattered with a title which in reality means very little
You despite your bravado are essentially a child in a man’s body. Your parents clearly have indulged you much to the determinant of your own personal development
It’s pointless engaging with you. You are in essence a very young child in terms of debate.
I’m bored with you
Where have I said otherwise? Holy fuck you're thick.
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Deleted member 9744
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Fair enough you've totally convinced me. I've now realised it is all so simple. Amazed I haven't seen it so far.
Grendel
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How do you think this conflict will be resolved?
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Deleted member 5849
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The Eastern European equivalent of the Taliban will be backed, they'll drive Russia out, there will be much rejoicing... followed by plenty of beheading.
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Deleted member 9744
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I used to know someone who watched RT all the time. The range of conspiracy theories they believed in was truly shocking.Oh for fuck sake
Utter, utter crank.
If people like this are where you and Grendel are getting your news from suddenly it all makes sense.
"In 2014, after the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation and during a conflict with Ukraine over its eastern parts, Macgregor appeared on Russian state-owned network RT where he called for annexation of Donbas"
"Three days after the 2022 invasion began, he said "The battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over," and predicted "If [Ukraine] don't surrender in the next 24 hours, I suspect Russia will ultimately annihilate them." Macgregor said he believed Russia should be allowed to seize whatever parts of Ukraine it wanted."
Grendel
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How do you think this conflict will be resolved?
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Deleted member 9744
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Do you think you know the answer to this question?
Grendel
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Well I asked you. Do you have a view? You go first.
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Deleted member 9744
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It's impossible to predict, and unfortunately it is unlikely to be resolved in the short term.
Grendel
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Do you conceive a situation where Russia would ever surrender all of the territory including Crimea?
To that I say never.
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Deleted member 9744
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I think it is highly unlikely. To say never is simplistic though.
Grendel
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No - it’s a fact and you know it
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Deleted member 9744
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OK this is painful.
Just to be clear we should of course be working towards a negotiated settlement and a compromise that saves the lives that will be lost in protracted battle, which neither side is going to win in the short term. Not to mention the potential destruction of the world through nuclear war and half the planet starving due the blockades on Ukraine. Whether such a settlement is possible who knows. And certainly you and I don't.
Just to be clear we should of course be working towards a negotiated settlement and a compromise that saves the lives that will be lost in protracted battle, which neither side is going to win in the short term. Not to mention the potential destruction of the world through nuclear war and half the planet starving due the blockades on Ukraine. Whether such a settlement is possible who knows. And certainly you and I don't.
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Deleted member 9744
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Learn the difference between fact and opinion.
Things change. Did you predict when the Soviet Union would fall apart? There were plenty of experts who were saying the day before the invasion that it wasn't going to happen. And they knew a lot more than you or me.
Grendel
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They do bit some things really don’t
Grendel
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well done
fatso
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Well maybe you should be interviewed as your the expert on the war.
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Mate you're far too clever for me to cope with.
Brighton Sky Blue
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What issue? His invasion?
skybluetony176
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Looking more into this Macgregor character he seems to be cropping up every 2 weeks or so on various outlets proclaiming that Ukraine are going to capitulate in the next 24 hours. He’s clearly a crank. Not sure why you take him seriously Fatso.
Incredible.
Say what you like about me, but don't mention by parents again you fucking creep.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Letting Putin have the land just weakens Ukraine ahead of the next inevitable invasion.
He's a fucking crank. It's astonishing that someone has suggested him as an independent mouthpiece.
fatso
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So nice of you to acknowledge it
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Wasn't that what happened in Crimea.
Do that and give Russia land give it a couple of years for Putin to stock back up and it all starts again, as it basically says if you invade another country you end up with more territory out of it. It'd be like giving a kid trying to steal a tray of cakes one of the cakes as a way to tell them off.