Match Thread Coventry City - Blackburn Rovers Match Thread - Wednesday 4th Oct (24 Viewers)

[fatso]

It's weird with Godden. I am always happy when he scores and I really want him to do well but for some reason, despite his goals over the years, I have never regarded him as a hero or a favourite. I can't put my finger on why that is. I think maybe others are the same. He's definitely a good finisher but maybe it is those games when he isn't involved which colour my opinion. I also agree that 5 league goals and being second top scorer in the division makes him worth his place. If he goes another 3/4 games without a goal or assist then maybe we can consider dropping him but injuries aside I doubt that will happen.

Drop him for who though?
There isn't another striker who is good enough to replace him, and I can't see that changing before January.

 

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[TomRad85]

Drop him for who though?
There isn't another striker who is good enough to replace him, and I can't see that changing before January.

You think we're buying a striker in January?

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[Evo1883]

It's weird with Godden. I am always happy when he scores and I really want him to do well but for some reason, despite his goals over the years, I have never regarded him as a hero or a favourite. I can't put my finger on why that is. I think maybe others are the same. He's definitely a good finisher but maybe it is those games when he isn't involved which colour my opinion. I also agree that 5 league goals and being second top scorer in the division makes him worth his place. If he goes another 3/4 games without a goal or assist then maybe we can consider dropping him but injuries aside I doubt that will happen.

Atleast you're honest and don't try and hide it

But I reckon if he drank I'm Samoan Joe's fans would like him more , or maybe even signed some shirts or had photos with fans at the CBS

 

[fatso]

You think we're buying a striker in January?

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No idea, but there won't be a better striker here before then, that's for sure.

 

[stevefloyd]

16 of those goals were not scored in the championship. He averages 8 or 9 goals per season in the championship, including some pens.
With very few assists.
At the minute I’d certainly play him ahead of Wright. He’s certainly earned that. But he has plenty of flaws in terms of being a good team player.

Its mainly his lack of pace that hampers him, I'm not his greatest fan but he's better than Wright atm so at least until his next injury he has to play.

 

[Torquay Sky Blue]

It's weird with Godden. I am always happy when he scores and I really want him to do well but for some reason, despite his goals over the years, I have never regarded him as a hero or a favourite. I can't put my finger on why that is. I think maybe others are the same. He's definitely a good finisher but maybe it is those games when he isn't involved which colour my opinion. I also agree that 5 league goals and being second top scorer in the division makes him worth his place. If he goes another 3/4 games without a goal or assist then maybe we can consider dropping him but injuries aside I doubt that will happen.

He doesn't help himself by cupping his ears when he scores. Never a good look and certainly doesn't endear him to the doubters

 

[TomRad85]

No idea, but there won't be a better striker here before then, that's for sure.

I'm not sure they'll be as keen to chuck our record signing in the bin as you seem to be.

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[Evo1883]

Well we were not killed in the stampede of championship clubs looking to prize him away when we spent £10m on 2 strikers. Lg1 Derby was the only rumour.

Godden is a very good championship finisher and a lg 1 all round striker.

When he’s fit and firing his goals make up for the other deficiencies …. When he’s not firing he’s a passenger. That’s why he divides opinion.

Ah yes , all league 1 strikers score 31 in 90 games at Championship level

I can't wrap my head around the nonsense you're spouting tbh

"Goddens running is conference , his left leg is super liga , his heading is Scottish prem "

The way people bend the rules to try and say godden is shit , is frankly hilarious




They don't understand football , simple really

Il die on this hill , matty godden is better than some of our wanky fans give him credit , and is a solid championship striker , his record for us is very good

 

[fatso]

I'm not sure they'll be as keen to chuck our record signing in the bin as you seem to be.

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I'm not suggesting they bin him, I'm saying he's not about to take Godden's place.

And I can't see Wright and Simms starting together until Godden is injured.

It's worth mentioning that both of Simms goals at QPR, where from efforts that didn't require him to think, maybe he's better when he doesn't have time to make a decision.

 

[Evo1883]

To be honest , won't be long until the same is being said about Simms, very similar strikers that prefer to be fed in the box .. but as we all know that's not acceptable

 

[Skyblueweeman]

16 of those goals were not scored in the championship. He averages 8 or 9 goals per season in the championship, including some pens.
With very few assists.
At the minute I’d certainly play him ahead of Wright. He’s certainly earned that. But he has plenty of flaws in terms of being a good team player.

So the majority of those goals were scored in the Championship???

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Ps. Godden was #41 on the Chanoionship striker list last season and #22 the year before.

And this season - more important than last season and the season before because it's, well, now - he's joint 4th highest scorer in the division.

 

[StrettoBoy]

That’s an interesting comparison .

The game has moved on so much from then. Micky couldn’t run but neither could the defenders he played against !.

Everybody could run faster than Micky Quinn

He had an eye for goal though and good body strength. I liked him.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Ah yes , all league 1 strikers score 31 in 90 games at Championship level

I can't wrap my head around the nonsense you're spouting tbh

"Goddens running is conference , his left leg is super liga , his heading is Scottish prem "

The way people bend the rules to try and say godden is shit , is frankly hilarious




They don't understand football , simple really

Il die on this hill , matty godden is better than some of our wanky fans give him credit , and is a solid championship striker , his record for us is very good

Totally with you. Bar Gyo, I'd say he's literally been our best striker in the last 10/15 years in my opinion. Yes his injury record hasn't been great but his goals/assists per game ratio is decent.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Ps. Godden was #41 on the Chanoionship striker list last season and #22 the year before.

And PPS...only McSheffrey and Gyo have scored more goals at this level than Godden for the club.

In fact, if Godden scores 11 more goals in his next 24 games for us at this level, he'll be more prolific than Gyo was for us in this division.

 

[TomRad85]

I'm not suggesting they bin him, I'm saying he's not about to take Godden's place.

And I can't see Wright and Simms starting together until Godden is injured.

It's worth mentioning that both of Simms goals at QPR, where from efforts that didn't require him to think, maybe he's better when he doesn't have time to make a decision.

Tbh its literally Robins' job to ensure Wright turns out to be a better player than Godden. There's no way the signing was sanctioned with the plan being he sits behind Godden on the bench. Same with Simms tbf.

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[Skyblueweeman]

Tbh its literally Robins' job to ensure Wright turns out to be a better player than Godden. There's no way the signing was sanctioned with the plan being he sits behind Godden on the bench. Same with Simms tbf.

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Tbf, it's Wrights job to ensure Wrights better than Godden. I'm happy to cut him slack - new country, new way of playing, new team etc etc etc but Goddens earning his starting place. MR can coach Wright all he can but Wright needs to put the ball in the back of the net.

We can't be dropping an inform goal-scorer for a player because if the size of the price tag (which I know isn't what you were saying).

And I'm not castigating any of our strikers - I think Godden has been and continues to be a great striker for us and doesn't deserve to be dropped and I'm excited for the futures of both Wright and Simms and hope they'll both be great signings for us.

 

[TomRad85]

Tbf, it's Wrights job to ensure Wrights better than Godden. I'm happy to cut him slack - new country, new way of playing, new team etc etc etc but Goddens earning his starting place. MR can coach Wright all he can but Wright needs to put the ball in the back of the net.

We can't be dropping an inform goal-scorer for a player because if the size of the price tag (which I know isn't what you were saying).

And I'm not castigating any of our strikers - I think Godden has been and continues to be a great striker for us and doesn't deserve to be dropped and I'm excited for the futures of both Wright and Simms and hope they'll both be great signings for us.

Well yes it's on Wright a bit too obviously but we don't spend that money on players, if Robins can't get a tune out of him I'm sure King will ask questions and worryingly might not be that keen to hand him that kind of cash again.

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[The watchmaker]

To be honest , won't be long until the same is being said about Simms, very similar strikers that prefer to be fed in the box .. but as we all know that's not acceptable

...and as we all know Robins called Simms out preseason and said he needed to work on it and then dropped him from the team.

I really don't know what the arguement here is all about. We didn't spend all that money on strikers because we were satisfied with what we have. Short term Godden's goals keep him in the team.

 

[Astute]

The same limitations are evident in ellis simms using this logic , had less touches than godden Saturday, a worse pass completion ratio , less ball recoveries , won less aerial duels, but scored 2 .. had he not scored would fans like yourself have said its like playing with 10 men ? Probably not because you're bloody clueless about it all .. it's nonsense

Move on from the matty godden hate , it's fucking boring , he plays for the team , the manager like him so get over it

It isn't Godden hate. He knows where the back of the net is. But last game other than waving his arms about he didn't do much more. One of the times he waived his arms about at Simms there was no chance of getting the ball to him. Whereas Simms caused them problems.

The one good thing about Godden other than goals is his coaching of the striker he plays with. But I would have taken him off and not Simms. One more goal for Simms would have been half the goals Godden had scored all season in one game.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Doesn’t justify its own thread and the ticket office/club twitter are ignoring me.

My daughter wants to use her JSB voucher to bring a mate for a quid on Saturday. If I get there early and go the ticket office tonight will they be able to sort it?

I’m sure I saw somewhere once that they only deal with match tickets for that particular fixture on match-days but may have imagined it or it may have been during one of the many season ticket fiascos.

You’d think it would be ok depends how close to kick off though

 

[Evo1883]

It isn't Godden hate. He knows where the back of the net is. But last game other than waving his arms about he didn't do much more. One of the times he waived his arms about at Simms there was no chance of getting the ball to him. Whereas Simms caused them problems.

The one good thing about Godden other than goals is his coaching of the striker he plays with. But I would have taken him off and not Simms. One more goal for Simms would have been half the goals Godden had scored all season in one game.

What EXTRA problems did simms cause astute ?

Godden does the same and scores 2 he's anonymous

He had less touches than godden , less ball recoveries meaning goddens chasing the lose balls , a worse pass accuracy, less passes into the final 3rd , less headers won ?

I'm curious , il genuinley debate people if their points make sense but right now I'm hearing an awful lot of waffle on here

Was it like playing with 10 men with Simms Saturday, infact 9 if you count goddens customary shit performance ?

The answer is no

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Heard a rumour there might be a very pleasant addition to the bench tomorrow

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Ohare

Would be a waste of a sub as he would obviously not play.

 

[Evo1883]

Per 90 minute played , couldn't be more similar if we tried , like playing with 9 men

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Per 90 minute played , couldn't be more similar if we tried , like playing with 9 men View attachment 32017

Where do you find these out of interest?

 

[Evo1883]

Where do you find these out of interest?

Sqwawka comparison

 

[napolimp]

I was starting to think that maybe Wright just wasn't a very talented forward, and the goals he scored were in a poor league. But after watching Galatasaray last night, I don't think the Turkish league is as bad as I thought it was, so if Wright scored 29 in 60 there must be a good goal scorer there.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Would be a waste of a sub as he would obviously not play.

We can only use 5 anyway.

I am not advocating putting O'Hare in there until he is close to full fitness but I think it would be concerning if Robins was genuinely prepared to bring on any of nine players. That's why I feel two of the places on the bench should usually be reserved for youth players to get experience of being part of the matchday squad. A little down the line O'Hare on the bench although unlikely to come on might provide a boost to the team and crowd.

 

[Yank]

Obviously I am a bit biased haha, but Haji will come good. I will be the first to say I thought he would have more goals by now, mind. He is very strong on the ball and on defenders and need's to use that a bit more. I think he comes good, but no at this point does not deserve to start.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

I was starting to think that maybe Wright just wasn't a very talented forward, and the goals he scored were in a poor league. But after watching Galatasaray last night, I don't think the Turkish league is as bad as I thought it was, so if Wright scored 29 in 60 there must be a good goal scorer there.

Yes let's give him time. He has shown in sort bursts real talent. He looks better than Gyokeres did at this stage in his time with us.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

We can only use 5 anyway.

I am not advocating putting O'Hare in there until he is close to full fitness but I think it would be concerning if Robins was genuinely prepared to bring on any of nine players. That's why I feel two of the places on the bench should usually be reserved for youth players to get experience of being part of the matchday squad. A little down the line O'Hare on the bench although unlikely to come on might provide a boost to the team and crowd.

Yeah but how often does Mark Robins use 5 subs ?

 

[Astute]

What EXTRA problems did simms cause astute ?

Godden does the same and scores 2 he's anonymous

He had less touches than godden , less ball recoveries meaning goddens chasing the lose balls , a worse pass accuracy, less passes into the final 3rd , less headers won ?

I'm curious , il genuinley debate people if their points make sense but right now I'm hearing an awful lot of waffle on here

Was it like playing with 10 men with Simms Saturday, infact 9 if you count goddens customary shit performance ?

The answer is no

So we should take off the player who has less of the ball but creates more chances and scores 2 goals over the player who has more of the ball and scores no goals?

Simms for the first time with us was buzzing. His confidence was as high as it could get. But we took him off. Yes Godden is a good goal poacher. I'm happy to have him in our side. But Goddens stats for the game were over the 90 minutes. Being a striker is all about confidence. Simms gave them more problems than Godden before he was taken off. We need to give time for Simms and Wright at some stage in case Godden gets injured. Last game would have been the perfect time. This isn't saying Godden doesn't deserve his place in the side.

What it does say is however well you do you will be subbed off. How can that be right?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Looking forward to this one tonight now. Think theres a real chance to build some momentum. I'd probably line up exactly the same as last game, but lets take the opportunity to give Godden a rest and Wright and Simms a run out if the scoreline allows us.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Yeah but how often does Mark Robins use 5 subs ?

Exactly so we don't need all 9 to be real options and as I say it would seem odd if Robins was that indecisive that any of them could come on (and he clearly isn't).

 

[napolimp]

Obviously I am a bit biased haha, but Haji will come good. I will be the first to say I thought he would have more goals by now, mind. He is very strong on the ball and on defenders and need's to use that a bit more. I think he comes good, but no at this point does not deserve to start.

Just having another look at his stats from Turkey, and he scored 5 in 22 when he joined Antalyaspor, and then an incredible 9 goals in 10 appearances during the season run-in. Evidence he's already had issues settling in previously?