How is it equal to have VAR in only some games in the same round? (5 Viewers)
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skybluepm2
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Agreed, how does it make any competition fair and reasonable if not consistent? However, I expect nothing less from the shitshow governing bodies in this country, ruining the game we all love.
Frostie
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Should be nothing. In all competitions. Ever.
Nick
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Thing is, there will have been a few sendings off today which may not have been with VAR and some that would have been given with it.
Then you have other games using VAR to make decisions
Nick
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Yeah so they should just disable it for those games.
Paxman II
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I think VAR is useful for goal line technology and hand ball decisions only. Aside from that it should not exist. There is way too much messing going on with our game. far too many chief's in the kitchen from 4th referees to var referee panels, it's getting silly. Since when did it become a rule NOT to raise an offside flag until the offending player goes on to touch the ball? If it's offside the flag must be raised immediately. Now they are talking about sin bins? Where will it end? I though 3 subs was more than fair, but now you can near change half the team with 5 subs! It's getting out of hand and spiling the game. All in my opinion of course.
stevefloyd
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The longer we do without it the better for me its fucking shite and probably more shite than the officials at most games.. save the game and fuck it off
SkyblueDad
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The whole VAR concept is a farce we have tv cameras basically refereeing games now it’s a bloody joke.
Even off-sides which is what it was initially brought in for a toe end of a boot or a hand makes you off-side, crazy.
But it will get worse human eye can’t compete with tv technology.
Even off-sides which is what it was initially brought in for a toe end of a boot or a hand makes you off-side, crazy.
But it will get worse human eye can’t compete with tv technology.
We were alright in analogue, digital is crippling the game.
It will never go away, because broadcasters (and a surprising number of fans) tend to prefer talking about referee controversies more than the actual game, and VAR is a great way to increase the number of controversies. This is exactly what these people want.
Plus the loudest voices in the game (whether it’s fans, players, managers or the media) are now completely unable to accept even the smallest of refereeing errors if it means a result goes against them. Many fans think their teams are the victims of a league-wide conspiracy as a default. They will never accept the idea of stopping VAR if it might have overturned even one decision they don’t like.
Plus the loudest voices in the game (whether it’s fans, players, managers or the media) are now completely unable to accept even the smallest of refereeing errors if it means a result goes against them. Many fans think their teams are the victims of a league-wide conspiracy as a default. They will never accept the idea of stopping VAR if it might have overturned even one decision they don’t like.
I could be wrong but I believe they’re allowed up to the national league, sure I read it somewhere
SkyblueDad
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The thing for me since football began the rules were the same whether it was kids football or World Cup. VAR has changed that so pathetically if Chelsea are drawn at home tomorrow to Cov it’s used drawn away it isn’t, but if they play each other in the final it’s used.
But most annoyingly the powers in the game know it’s crap but say nowt and tv pundits know but also say nowt.
stupot07
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Yeah you're completely right. VAR and the standard of refereeing at every level is shocking. Prem refs don't like to give decisions now as they know VAR will pick things up. And VAR isn't even picking up anything clear and obvious. It's picking up tiny margins that the naked eye can't see.
So many poor decisions by VAR since it's come back in. Offsides, literally a toe nail off and your off. The frame speeds mean it will never be accurate anyway so they are making paper thin decisions based on flawed technology.
In the last week, how is DCLs a straight red? How is Jota's a penalty against Liverpool?
Then you go to the FA appeals, how has Kitching not been over turned yet the Hull players horrendous tackle was? How is it Godden is the only person to get a retrospective ban for diving?
The whole thing is awful.
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clint van damme
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It's madness that in a fast moving sport being able to use replays to help facilitate making correct decisions has gone so badly tits up.
SkyblueDad
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Be interesting if we studied all our goals this season how many would be ruled out under VAR due to a foot, hand or elbow.
Frostie
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Trying to turn something fundamentally subjective into something completely objective is impossible. Never mind using flawed technology to do so. It could never work & the sport is much worse off because of it.
Hobo
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It's not equal is it and a nonsense. It should be a VAR free competition from the begining to the end.
glasgowfan
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As long as it is equal for both teams in a particular match, it's no problem if it is active for some matches and not others. Having VAR for arsenal v liverpool had no effect on our match against oxford
glasgowfan
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I believe it was used in the FA Cup at all Premier League grounds. Makes sense
Oh I missed the point I meant if it actually stopped that game, I watched but didn't notice?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Because let's say a small team has a goal disallowed that should have been given due to offside or whatever that costs them a place in the next round. That prize money could have a massive difference on that teams financial ability and a chance to buy a player that could make a difference in getting them to a higher level.
Whereas the big teams for whom the prize money doesn't even cover a week's wages for a one player would get the right decision.
And beyond that VAR will almost certainly benefit the bigger clubs at home. They're likely to be doing most of the attacking and so most of the decisions being looked at will more likely benefit them. In the past a smaller team would need to counter the bigger team with physicality. With VAR that sort of tactic is more likely to end up with a red card, with slowed down replays making a slightly mistimed challenge or robust aerial challenge look like an assault. And that's before you take the unconscious bias into mind. A referee, whether they realise it or not, is more likely to think a lower league player is going to make such an error than a top flight one.
If the entire competition can't have it, none of them should.
harvey098
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That makes no sense to me whatsoever. What difference does it make to the Maidstone game (having no VAR ) that the Spurs v Man City game will have VAR.
bigbeatpete
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For me, part of sport is human error. Whether it be a goalkeeper misjudging a cross, a player missing a penalty, a linesman missing an offside, etc.
VAR removes that and turns it in to a clinical process for the sake of money to enrich premier league clubs.
It’s shite. RIP it out. Let fans discuss post match what might have beens
VAR removes that and turns it in to a clinical process for the sake of money to enrich premier league clubs.
It’s shite. RIP it out. Let fans discuss post match what might have beens
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Because one team could go through with VAR while another team wouldn't because they have different methods of officiating.
Lets say that a few grounds in the Championship didn't have goalline technology and so games played at those stadiums don't use it but all the other grounds do. We score a goal at that stadium that isn't counted because the officials don't see it going in, but if we had the technology it would be given. Due to that we don't win the game and drop two points.
Why should that matter? Both teams in that game didn't have the technology so why would it matter if, say, Leicester v Norwich did? Because it's still the same competition and not everyone is playing to the same set of standards.
harvey098
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As long as the two teams actually playing each other have the same technology, I don’t see the issue.
By your logic, all officiating should be non-league standard because some teams in the same competition have non league refs so it’s not fair that other teams have good referees. I say if there are good referees available for some, use them. If there is goal line technology available for some, use it.
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Terry Gibson's perm
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It’s a bit daft that you could have var at the first game but in the replay it’s not available.