MalcSB
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Where was the blood pouring from the studs having hit his thigh?
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Nick
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Yeah a still image is great, it makes it look like he's miles late after the player has gone by him. He's just kicked the ball and their player has actually gone into him.
Where was he meant to put his leg after he stretched to kick it? He wasn't even going in the direction of the player, their player went into him.
Because if a player runs into a player late which as a tactic has definitely become a thing!
David O'Day
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anything can look worse in a freeze frame
i can't believe this is the hill you are choosing to die on? a shocking penalty to fucking leicester
All I'm saying is he makes contact and that gives the ref a decision to make. I think it's way worse as his leg is locked out so rather than hitting and crumpling it lifts the player off the ground. The fact his leg only has one place to go is probably why the ref deemed it dangerous. At the time I thought it was a good challenge but where does there player go to avoid contact?
I can't believe this is a hill you are willing to die on after everyone in the sky studio and Mark Robins said it was a pen I'd trust their judgement over yours any day of the week.
David O'Day
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D-H makes contact with him, it doesn't matter if he has nowhere to go though as it's still not a pen anyway you look at it
It's sideways his foot go sideways from the impact suggesting he really is late
I mean you can see the pressure on Thomas's leg by DH running into it
David O'Day
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Robins, doesn't think it's pen
I can tell you that for a fact, it's just he decided he didn't want to risk it and slag off a ref after winning a game
Oh, sky sports pundits! wow all the reports seem to say it was at best very soft
Nick
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Ok so what happens if a player kicks it and another player slides in late and gets kicked instead of the ball.
Their player was actually the one that initiated contact after the ball was kicked by Thomas. Usually a player kicks a ball and then another player goes into them afterwards it's a foul, isn't it?
Thomas has nowhere to put his leg after kicking it.
MalcSB
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If those stills showed a situation where Thomas had missed the ball and caught the man, then clear penalty and potential red card. However , that isn’t the case.
David O'Day
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that's the thing, if you applied the same logic that gave the pen yesterday there would be about 100 fouls a game
The player would have left his feet so wouldn't be at a normal height you'd expect them so I'd suggest no foul given. His boot doesn't strike their players foot it's a fair way up the leg which makes it different. I think there's a fair amount of Sky blue glasses being used here. Similarly although their keeper doesn't make contact with Godden he absolutely should have got booked.
Nick
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Exactly. It doesn't show the context that he's just kicked the ball and their player has gone into him.
At this point the ref was trying to impress winks anyway.
It isn't a red card I have repeatedly said that but on balance I think it is a pen.
shmmeee
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Nick
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No if the player was on the floor through as he foot goes up could easily be at knee height.
The issue is that it was their player that actually initiated the contact, Thomas didn't go in on him thigh high after the ball had gone.
It wasn't contact with his foot or shin it was his thigh I don't think you'd get away with it anywhere on the pitch.
shmmeee
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Is a clash of heads always a foul?
He didn't initiate the contact Thomas dived across he carried on running straight. Thomas initiated the contact. Just because it was half a second after the ball was played doesn't make it less true.
David O'Day
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no, no it's not a foul anywhere on the pitch
Not if both players are going for the ball and have a chance of going for it. If it was a diving header in to someone's thigh I'm not sure how that would play out...
David O'Day
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he did though, Thomas is allowed to kick ball and doesn't have to move out the way
Mate you are deluded if it was the other way round you'd be screaming.
David O'Day
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only person who is deluded her is the fella arguing with the world because they made a bad call and is too proud to back down
Nick
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Yes and again, it was their player who made the contact.
Nick
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Yes he kicked the ball and their player ran into him after he kicked it
If their player kicked it and Thomas had flown into him you would have a point
Nick
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Yet Thomas went for the ball and actually kicked it before their player actually got there.
SkyblueDad
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The bonus is the ref didn’t wave the red card as he gave a yellow he could have deemed it dangerous enough for a red.
Dewsbury-Hall tried to make a meal if it rolling round as if he had been shot but then suddenly fine and composed to take the pen
Dewsbury-Hall tried to make a meal if it rolling round as if he had been shot but then suddenly fine and composed to take the pen
Their player runs straight Thomas makes the lunge.
mark82
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How the ref doesn't even give a free kick for that is beyond me.
David O'Day
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he's allowed to play the ball and doesn't have to move once done
by your logic any tackle where there is contact after is a foul