Our Run In (5 Viewers)
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Happy_Martian
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It's a fun talking point (and why I did my predictions) but I keep saying it. We're still far too far out to be micro-analysing the future. 19 games left, the playoff spots are open to anyone. We lose the next two, we could drop to midtable.
itsabuzzard
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Given our momentum, it's more of a jog in than run in 
I agree with a lot of what is being said about anything can happen over the next 19 games, we just need to look back to last years run in. There were times like Stoke 4-0 where I thought that's it we've blown any chance, but then other teams started faltering and the last minute goal from Wilson at Blackburn kept our hopes alive. I think there will be so many twist and turns for a lot of teams over the next three months that we should just sit back and enjoy the ride, que sera sera
Robinshio
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I would argue that you need to finish above 7th - and usually 73/74 points does that
How Many Points Do You Need To Make The Championship Play-offs? - The Stats Zone
www.thestatszone.com
Plus:
22-23. / 80, 75, 70, 69
20-21. / 82, 80, 75, 75
21-22. / 87, 80, 78, 77
19-20. / 81, 81, 73, 70.
Astute
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Be in with a chance? We have climbed to 6th from near the bottom whilst playing all the top sides in this run. We have gone above the teams below us because they are not in good form. We are free scoring yet have kept a tight defence. We're the only side to put 3 past Leicester this season. We even got a point at Leeds.
I don't understand all the negativity when we're already in 6th and playing our best football for nearly 30 years. I could understand if we still hadn’t got a top 6 finish for 50 years but that's a thing of the past.
Astute
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Win the next two we could be 6 points above 7th. More chance of this happening than trying to work out results of games between sides below us and a pick up of form for all the teams below us.
Hobo
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The positive is that we got off to a slow start because of so many new players coming in. But we have still got to sixth. So lots of games left second half of the season, and we know there is scope to improve. So if we keep doing what we have been doing, we should be okay or there or thereabouts?
Two things that can derail us:
1. A run of injuries to key players.
2. If we stay in top six teams may become very negative tactically against us. We aren't always that good at breaking defensively minded teams down, especially at home. Being in the top 6 brings a different type of pressure.
But if the big crowds continue, the big atmosphere's and the fans stick by the players through thick and thin, it could be very interesting.
Two things that can derail us:
1. A run of injuries to key players.
2. If we stay in top six teams may become very negative tactically against us. We aren't always that good at breaking defensively minded teams down, especially at home. Being in the top 6 brings a different type of pressure.
But if the big crowds continue, the big atmosphere's and the fans stick by the players through thick and thin, it could be very interesting.
Sky_Blue_Daz
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Well if we get to Wembley again , me dad can look after himself this time
Philosoraptor
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I like the logic in this.
shmmeee
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1) We just got our top scorer injured and smashed a team 6-2 then beat top of the league 3-1.
2) the league leaders just tried to sit back on us for 45 mins and we scored three.
Philosoraptor
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Going to have a quick look into my crystal ball..
Philosoraptor
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Ipswich does look like they are starting to go in a downwards trajectory, as many predicted on here.
Other teams seem now to be treading water instead of climbing.
Wingy has set a target of (1600) for a comfortable place in the play offs.
Auto's, I think we are looking at around (1700).
With the games left, anything is possible.
Even myself installing a spell checker.
Other teams seem now to be treading water instead of climbing.
Wingy has set a target of (1600) for a comfortable place in the play offs.
Auto's, I think we are looking at around (1700).
With the games left, anything is possible.
Even myself installing a spell checker.
How many points up for grabs, looking forward to circa 1700's.
Oh bugger late!🫣
Philosoraptor
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I think consistency is going to be the main thing here.
Not the amount of points that are stocked up but the fewest losses we have.
Philosoraptor
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The higher up you go the harder it gets to maintain or increase your rating.
It's like a beep test.
That's why you take your points when you can. There are no easy games but some are more easier than others.
Always said you need a team that can win against the bottom 8 teams away from home and then also all the permutations in between.
It's like a beep test.
That's why you take your points when you can. There are no easy games but some are more easier than others.
Always said you need a team that can win against the bottom 8 teams away from home and then also all the permutations in between.
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Philosoraptor
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Just out of curiosity, I have always wondered how much each place is worth in the Premiership. The last time I checked the Championship prize money is worked out differently.
curly_tom
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At the end of last season when we didn't make it, I remember everyone going on about how much more difficult it would be this year with the big teams coming down. I guess that is being born out but it seems that quite a few of the play-off hopefuls have faltered as we did at the beginning of the season which leaves a potetial play-off position a real possibility. The big problem will be trying to beat Leeds, Southampton, Ipwich or maybe even Leicester in a two-legged semi-final. I didn't think we had a chance against Boro last year but somehow it happened. Everyone gets so fixated on getting into 6th place that I think people seem to forget that they are hard to win.
I guess we just need to enjoy the ride and not get too concerned with how many points we can notch up. As people have said, it's a game at a time and try to beat each team as they come. We will slip up here and there but I think we will win more often than not in the run-in.
I guess we just need to enjoy the ride and not get too concerned with how many points we can notch up. As people have said, it's a game at a time and try to beat each team as they come. We will slip up here and there but I think we will win more often than not in the run-in.
skybluelee
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At this point last season Gyokeres had 14, Hamer 4.
This year Godden has 9, Wright 8, O'Hare 6, Sakamoto 6. Much less reliance this season on just 2 players for goals.
Astute
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The main thing is don't lose to the sides around you. A draw is always a decent result.
Hobo
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1) We just got our top scorer injured and smashed a team 6-2 then beat top of the league 3-1.
2) the league leaders just tried to sit back on us for 45 mins and we scored three.
The team we smashed were a new team to the league below.
The League leaders sat back on a lead because they had ten men. Not that they offered much with 11 but teams do have game plans for different phases to a game.
Do we really have a top scorer injured? It's not like Gyokeres if he had got injured last year? This season goals have been coming in dribs and drabs from 5 or more players.
Your points seem a bit random against my original post?
Martin180
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Dribs and drabs ?
we’ve scored 24 goals in our last 10 games
mark82
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Slight note that Oxford are not a new team to the league below. This is their 8th consecutive season in the 3rd tier.
SlowerThanPlatt
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Astute
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And only 10 against. So it isn't as though we're going all out attack and just trying to outscore the other side.
What's more impressive is our form against the top sides. In this run we have played 5 of the top 6 other clubs. 1 defeat, 2 draws and 2 wins. These sides other than Sunderland are on great runs themselves. 9 goals for 5 against.
skybluericoh
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Also we came back from behind on at least three of them. Earlier in the season we hadn’t won from a losing position
mrtrench
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The prize for final position in the Premiership is published online. Here is a link to last season :
Premier League prize money by position: What can each team win in 2023/24? | Sporting News United Kingdom
The 2023/24 Premier League season offers another chance for top-flight clubs to boost their finances by securing the highest possible league position at the end of the campaign.
From memory, there is no prize by final position in the Championship.
Astute
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A lot of people don't seem to be taking us seriously yet. The last time I looked Sunderland were slightly lower odds than us. They don't even have a striker and have lost a few games easily recently. I don't mind staying under the radar though.
Robinshio
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Joint 9th favourite with Sunderland for a top 6 finish at 5/2
MikeyMoo
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Championship promotion odds
- Leicester City @ 1/50
- Leeds United @ 4/7
- Southampton @ 8/13
- Ipswich Town @ 4/6
- West Bromwich Albion @ 6/1
- Middlesbrough @ 9/1
- Coventry @ 10/1
OPTA has CCFC finishing 7th with a 25.9% chance of getting in the playoffs, but that was before the last two games. Others have been updated and predict 6th place - quite a few are predicting 6th place with quite a gap (6 points or so ) to 7th.
Philosoraptor
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Robinshio
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I wonder what odds you would have got at the last international break ?Championship promotion odds
As of 17/01/23 CCFC given a 9% chance of promotion. 538 has stopped making predictions
- Leicester City @ 1/50
- Leeds United @ 4/7
- Southampton @ 8/13
- Ipswich Town @ 4/6
- West Bromwich Albion @ 6/1
- Middlesbrough @ 9/1
- Coventry @ 10/1