Match Thread Sheffield Wednesday - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 20th Jan (7 Viewers)
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MalcSB
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There’s a post on there commenting on the lack of diversity in their supporters at the ground. This is very different to our fan base - one of the things I like is how the Sky Blues have a truly multi- cultural following.
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Horrified and depressed by events at yesterday’s game - not to mention some of the ‘debate’ (there isn’t one to be had) afterwards - I want to take a proactive role in helping our club cleanse itself of racist and homophobic abuse from the stands. I know lots of others feel the same way. In that ...www.owlstalk.co.uk
Cheylesmore ITK
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Sheffield is a great and multicultural city but their support was very white yesterday.
HadjiChippo
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80% of Sheffield pop in the last census is white, so that’s very much going to be the case.
As opposed to Coventry that is far more diverse at 65% white population.
Not that any of this matters, but it shouldn’t come as a shock.
Darth Robins
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Whoopsie!
Cheylesmore ITK
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Is it that low - seems higher
I guess it's a case of it being multicultural in some areas and almost exclusively white in others.
In places like Foleshill you still have white (mostly irish and eastern european) populations.
Anyway, fuck the racist twats.
clint van damme
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Do we? Not so sure.
Cheylesmore ITK
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I see a lot, lot more black and Asian fans at the CBS than I saw supporting Wednesday yesterday.
As someone has pointed out we area more multicultural city than Sheffield.
Flying Fokker
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Anyway, talking of trains…A trip down memory lane.
Reading between the lines, I’d say we were well and truly shafted.
Reading between the lines, I’d say we were well and truly shafted.
Coventry City: Chairman Tim Fisher says club 'will die' if they do not leave Ricoh Arena
Coventry City chairman Tim Fisher says the club must leave the Ricoh Arena if they are to survive.
www.bbc.co.uk
pusbccfc
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I'm comparison to the city of Coventry, no, but our fanbase is more diverse than most. I'd say that's true of most West Mids and some of the London clubs.
pusbccfc
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I like the ideas from Wednesday fans about the clubs coming together.
Singing songs that suggest all Wednesday fans are racist isn't right, especially when we've had similar incidents from our fans.
Both sets coming together to leave rivalries aside for a few minutes would be positive and sends our a powerful message.
Singing songs that suggest all Wednesday fans are racist isn't right, especially when we've had similar incidents from our fans.
Both sets coming together to leave rivalries aside for a few minutes would be positive and sends our a powerful message.
Cheylesmore ITK
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2024/25 League 1 Champs?
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was just about to ask the same….
@pusbccfc if you’re on about the banner then yes, it’s not a very nice situation but as far as I heard there was nothing else at the match, no whole stand chanting, no references to it, no players targeted etc…
wouldn’t compare the two here, although both disgusting
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clint van damme
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That's not what the conversations about. It's about how diverse the support is.
You could have a support that's 100% white and not be racist.
I think pusbccfc post is pretty accurate though.
Cheylesmore ITK
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I am trying to think of when we have been accused of racism. There was that accusation that turned out to be a misunderstanding against a Fulham fan but can't think of anything else.
We have fans who will be racist like I can't recall anything like this.
mark82
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It was quite a shock when I moved up here how white it was compared with Coventry. My workplace was 99% white.
pusbccfc
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Wasn't a fan arrested in the Stoke game last year for racially abusing one of their players?
I've heard comments before. I know people who have had comments thrown at them too.
I'd like our fans to take an anti-racist approach rather than fully targeting the Wednesday fan base.
Cheylesmore ITK
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Is it?
I am referencing this part Clint "Singing songs that suggest all Wednesday fans are racist isn't right, especially when we've had similar incidents from our fans."
That is not about how diverse our fans, it is saying we have had similar incidents to yesterday and I am asking when they were as I don't recall them.
2024/25 League 1 Champs?
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my comments were meant to be in response to @pusbccfc regarding comparing the two incidents, and in response to @clint van damme the post specifically said “ Singing songs that suggest all Wednesday fans are racist isn't right, especially when we've had similar incidents from our fans”
so quite rightly the question back was when? I can’t recall similar incidents, over the course of thirty-ish years following the club
so quite rightly the question back was when? I can’t recall similar incidents, over the course of thirty-ish years following the club
clint van damme
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My initial response was to malcsb saying we have a 'truly multicultural fanbase'.
I responded I'm not so sure we do.
That doesn't mean Im implying we have a racism problem in the fanbase
2024/25 League 1 Champs?
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the question wasn’t to you….
Cheylesmore ITK
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That wasn't the same, that was one fan who was arrested and kicked out.
Yesterday was a number of people racially abusing a player over an extended moment of time which led to what seems like multiple monkey chants.
Yes while we have racist fans to say we have had an incident like yesterday is pretty disingenuous.
clint van damme
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My response wasn't to you! Is this a log in mix up?!
Cheylesmore ITK
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You quoted me in your post so I assumed you were talking to me
clint van damme
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You quoted me in your post so I assumed you were talking to me
I was!
Cheylesmore ITK
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I'll put this to bed now
We have fans who are racist and who will say racist things (I mean just look at some of the posts on other threads here) but to say we have racially targeted a player over an extended period and in numbers just isn't true.
We have fans who are racist and who will say racist things (I mean just look at some of the posts on other threads here) but to say we have racially targeted a player over an extended period and in numbers just isn't true.
Cheylesmore ITK
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Then your post made no sense, sorry about that.
I repeat I was just asking someone to provide an example of what they had stated. Which is perfectly valid no matter what the original conversation was about.
clint van damme
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Re-read from malcsb post, 1223, on the previous page.
If you still can't grasp whats going on then I'll leave you to it.
Cheylesmore ITK
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yes I know, but I was simply asking for an example something a poster had stated.
That is perfectly valid, if you can't grasp that then then I do feel for you.
2024/25 League 1 Champs?
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@clint van damme, both me and @Cheylesmore ITK made the same point and both to another poster, NOT YOU!
we both said that we disagree with @pusbccfc saying we have had similar incidents, and Cheylesmore asked for examples.
It doesn’t require reading back through reams of posts, it’s fairly simple, and you seem to have not grasped what’s going on rather than anybody else…
I’ll simplify it - what are these incidents we have been involved in that are similar to the incident yesterday?
we both said that we disagree with @pusbccfc saying we have had similar incidents, and Cheylesmore asked for examples.
It doesn’t require reading back through reams of posts, it’s fairly simple, and you seem to have not grasped what’s going on rather than anybody else…
I’ll simplify it - what are these incidents we have been involved in that are similar to the incident yesterday?
clint van damme
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Then you shouldn't have been responding to me as I made no accusations of anything.
Crack on anyway.
Cheylesmore ITK
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Yeah, I understand we were talking about the diversity of the city fanbase as I was one of the first to start talking bout this but I simply asked another poster to clarify a point he had made.
Anyway, I'll leave it there so this doesn't go down a wormhole.
Cheylesmore ITK
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You replied to me first though Clint? I'll remember not to reply to you in future then if this is the nonsense I am going to get.
