Birmingham City stadium (3 Viewers)

[AOM]

60,000 they are talking about.

Has any club gone from a 15-20,000 fan base to 60,000? Certainly in the past 25 years anyway.

How big was Upton Park? About 30,000?
Probably the only other stadium with such a drastic jump in capacity that could be comparable I can think of, but not sure if Birmingham are really going to be filling a stadium that big as West Ham have...

 

---

[pusbccfc]

How big was Upton Park? About 30,000?
Probably the only other stadium with such a drastic jump in capacity that could be comparable I can think of, but not sure if Birmingham are really going to be filling a stadium that big as West Ham have...

Yeah good point. 30,000 - 60,000 is a huge jump.

Birmingham City have one of the biggest catchment areas but West Ham possibly bigger. The entirety of Essex and East London is a West Ham stronghold. That's before you factor in the element that West Ham is in one of the most visited cities in the world.

Ironically, West Ham fans think they have sold their soul. Birmingham will be another level with this.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Yeah good point. 30,000 - 60,000 is a huge jump.

Birmingham City have one of the biggest catchment areas but West Ham possibly bigger. The entirety of Essex and East London is a West Ham stronghold. That's before you factor in the element that West Ham is in one of the most visited cities in the world.

Ironically, West Ham fans think they have sold their soul. Birmingham will be another level with this.

West Ham average gate was just under 35k and was constrained by the capacity at Upton Park, so the jump to 60k is smaller relative to the actual demand. Further, they also play at an Olympic Stadium in one of the world's most visited cities with great transport links.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

I doubt we'd have turned down the gift of a national legacy asset for a knock-down price

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

That place is an absolute shit-hole. I parked up there a few times when we were playing at St Andrew's - but never after dark! Where are they going to put all the rough sleepers?

 

[SkyBlueSoul]

That place is an absolute shit-hole. I parked up there a few times when we were playing at St Andrew's - but never after dark! Where are they going to put all the rough sleepers?

In seats on matchday to make it look fuller

 

[stay_up_skyblues]

To stand any chance of filling a stadium that size it needs to coincide with a rise to top 4 premier league levels. Zero chance imo and even 30,000 will feel miserable in a 60,000 seater. Half full always does. We should know.

Even if the owners are multi billionaires (are they oil baron levels?) they can’t just buy their way to the top echelons anymore.

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

It only makes sense to massively expand if you're a club with a huge waiting list for season tickets doesn't it? Anything else and you're just being a stadium you know is too big for you in the hope of future success and we all know how depressing it is sat in an empty stadium.

 

[pusbccfc]

They must have so much money. They've announced new fan zones and fancy entrance to St Andrews to open next season.

They've spent a fortune doing up the stadium just to move on in the next 5 years?

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

15k in a 60k stadium? Please let it happen just to see the carnage unfold afterwards

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

If they are serious about a new super multi sports arena surely the NEC would be the ideal location not some shithole inner city slum

 

[Joy Division]

If they are serious about a new super multi sports arena surely the NEC would be the ideal location not some shithole inner city slum

It's not in Birmingham though.

 

[Evo1883]

The delusion is huge , sit back and let it all play out and then laugh

 

[pusbccfc]

If they are serious about a new super multi sports arena surely the NEC would be the ideal location not some shithole inner city slum

Tbf they've bought prime land in Birmingham. It needs to be regenerated.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

It's not in Birmingham though.

West Ham is not in West Ham, Manchester Utd not in Manchester. Just think for a stadium like that and on about doing American Football, Rugby etc that the NEC has everything there

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

West Ham is not in West Ham, Manchester Utd not in Manchester. Just think for a stadium like that and on about doing American Football, Rugby etc that the NEC has everything there

Transport links can't be great at this new stadium's location can they? Local branch station at Adderley isn't going to have great capacity and it's a fair walk from New Street. Maybe it's aimed at the HS2 station but even that's going to be a bit of a walk through crappy bits of town isn't it?

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

If they are serious about a new super multi sports arena surely the NEC would be the ideal location not some shithole inner city slum

"The Wembley of the Midlands"

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Tbf they've bought prime land in Birmingham. It needs to be regenerated.

"Prime land"??
The whole of Small Heath, Alum Rock and Adderley is a wasteland that needs to be bulldozed. Putting a shiny new stadium doesn't make the area any less of a shit-hole, unless you are going to redevelop the entire area (like the Olympic Park or Canary Wharf in London), but there isn't the money to do that.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Transport links can't be great at this new stadium's location can they? Local branch station at Adderley isn't going to have great capacity and it's a fair walk from New Street. Maybe it's aimed at the HS2 station but even that's going to be a bit of a walk through crappy bits of town isn't it?

Using HS2 to get there would only apply to Orient and Charlton fans in League One!

 

[Joy Division]

West Ham is not in West Ham, Manchester Utd not in Manchester. Just think for a stadium like that and on about doing American Football, Rugby etc that the NEC has everything there

So they would have to deal with Solihull Council who I very much doubt would be so keen to sell of their land so cheaply as BCC have.

It makes absolute sense to invest money on land that is near their home and in desperate need of regeneration for the area.

 

[pusbccfc]

Meanwhile, according to their forum, they are expecting 19,000 for their huge match against Cardiff which is just £15 for adults.

 

[TomRad85]

The owners are either delusional or up to something fishy.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

 

[Saddlebrains]

The owners are either delusional or up to something fishy.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

It's going to implode massively and it will be hilarious

 

[Frank Sidebottom]

To stand any chance of filling a stadium that size it needs to coincide with a rise to top 4 premier league levels. Zero chance imo and even 30,000 will feel miserable in a 60,000 seater. Half full always does. We should know.

Even if the owners are multi billionaires (are they oil baron levels?) they can’t just buy their way to the top echelons anymore.

Depends how it's done. If you have 2 tiers with roughly 30k in each tier you simply keep the upper tier closed until demand is required... I suspect with Brady involved that the owner has an eye on hosting NFL games and maybe even a UK Franchise which would easily attract capacity crowds. Birmingham Badgers anyone?

 

[ccfc922]

They're genuinely deluded.

I appreciate them helping us out, but they're on a road to ruin with these fucking clowns in charge.

"Gee whizz, let's hire that British guy Rooney!"

 

[wingy]

Asset becomes cheap due to massive inflation,Country takes advantage of a piece of real estate and a cultural icon!!

Welcome to the 51st state!

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Depends how it's done. If you have 2 tiers with roughly 30k in each tier you simply keep the upper tier closed until demand is required... I suspect with Brady involved that the owner has an eye on hosting NFL games and maybe even a UK Franchise which would easily attract capacity crowds. Birmingham Badgers anyone?

Blinders, surely!

 

[Johnnythespider]

The owners are seeing it in NFL franchise terms, if it actually happens I doubt the locals will be able to afford a ticket

 

[napolimp]

Depends how it's done. If you have 2 tiers with roughly 30k in each tier you simply keep the upper tier closed until demand is required... I suspect with Brady involved that the owner has an eye on hosting NFL games and maybe even a UK Franchise which would easily attract capacity crowds. Birmingham Badgers anyone?

Bit of an MK situation then.

 

[fernandopartridge]

They're going to come up with a Birmingham American Football team called the Peaky Blinders or some shite

 

[TomRad85]

They're going to come up with a Birmingham American Football team called the Peaky Blinders or some shite

Genuinely the cringiest club going atm. The fans are wanking themselves into a frenzy all while sitting 2nd bottom of The Championship. Weird stuff.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Genuinely the cringiest club going atm. The fans are wanking themselves into a frenzy all while sitting 2nd bottom of The Championship. Weird stuff.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Ewwwwwwwww!

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Bit of an MK situation then.

More of a MLK situation...

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

There will be no appetite for a Birmingham based nfl team even with Brady hanging around I’m not sure there will be for a London based one, uk fans have teams already. All this talk is to gain local authority funding which they will need a lot of luck with as Birmingham council is broke.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

There will be no appetite for a Birmingham based nfl team even with Brady hanging around I’m not sure there will be for a London based one, uk fans have teams already. All this talk is to gain local authority funding which they will need a lot of luck with as Birmingham council is broke.

I thought the whole point of Brum Council selling that desolate wilderness to Blues was to try and realise their assets so they have a chance of paying their bin men!