Ccfcisparks
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Maybe its just revisionism but I feel like our defence was a lot better when Sakamoto played. He covered MVE extremely well and that Right side was very strong.
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TomRad85
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Yes MVE and Saka is a very good right side at this level, I'd argue it could do a job in the Prem. His loss was a big one.
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I agree it's a balancing act, in fact that is what I keep saying. It's the strict adherence to the model in its purist form that is the problem.
I do wonder whether most fans are up for five more transitional seasons. Or Robins for that matter.
biggymania
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Most fans? Probably not - but I think progress every year is the goal and I do think we're achieving that - even if the league position doesn't match I think we can all see the progress. I don't think long term financial strategy should be revised because the masses might get a bit impatient. That's not really how it works.
Robins? Almost certainly. He signed a long term deal last year and I imagine Doug has given him pretty much what he promised in terms of investment and I am sure the "we have to sell our players at the peak of their valuation to reinvest" was a very clear message he heard.
Boicey
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Yeah that’s why I said we have midfield problems as well. Unlike some who think all is fine and dandy.
Winny the Bish
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The month before Saka lost form him and MVE were our entire attack. They were ripping teams apart and then covering each other in defence.
ceetee
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Absolutely..
Hull were carrying the ball through midfield from the first minute to the last. It didn't help that Eccles was pushed out wide, and Kelly isn't quick enough to stop them
Chris1987
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Plus you would imagine that Sheaf leaving contingencies would have been discussed and possible replacements identified
blunted
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I think next season is going to be really tough. Three teams coming down are better than when they went up last time and not that many of their players will be in demand. The losing playoff teams will be strong along with probably Hull who have shit loads of money. Middlesborough are getting their act together again and there is always a surprise contender.
We really need a good start and find that consistency throughout the season. Would love another cup run but not at the expense of promotion. I used to rant at MR playing weakened teams in the cup, but this season has proved why.
We really need a good start and find that consistency throughout the season. Would love another cup run but not at the expense of promotion. I used to rant at MR playing weakened teams in the cup, but this season has proved why.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Norwich, WBA, Hull, Leeds, Southampton and even Leicester (pre-red card) were better than than us at moving the ball through midfield than we were. I can't comment on Ipswich as I missed that fixture.
Torp has shown some real glimpses of class but he's not really shown this consistently yet.
Tea & Busquets
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We’re in for a big summer lads don’t worry. Whether we sell sheaf or not I have full faith that King and Robins have learned from their mistake and will reinvest properly. PUSB.
CovLad94
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I trust them also, but was never going to all be done in one window, especially with the league being as hard as it was this time around, we'll be better next season no doubt
Mucca Mad Boys
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They reinvested ‘properly’ last summer too…
skybluesteve
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Didn’t Andy Turner say that Kelly put in a vintage display in on Weds? I suppose vintage cars are a bit slower and less manoeuvrable.
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Tea & Busquets
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The signings we made were all good but sadly not enough. Where was our Hamer replacement? Most crucial man in the squad wasn’t replaced till January and with Torp who I love but hadn’t had any football in months. This is what I mean by lesson learned.
Chris1987
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We had a hell of a lot of players to replace last summer including 2 outstanding ones. This time round the core is already in place.
Tea & Busquets
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I wouldn't be opposed to us selling Sheaf at the peak of his value. He is an immense player for us and I'd hate to see him leave, but I'd much rather get the most value out of him and reinvest that into 2-3 guys that can be as good or better than him with time.
SHUNT31
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Like Hamer’s were? Hope we have learnt from that as we have been lagging in CM all year.
I think the situation is different. The season before we were o my just getting a proper scouting and recruitment team and approach in place.
if the rumours are true that we asked for first option on the Peterborough CDM, Kypriano, it would suggest we have already started to identify Sheafs potential successor …
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Balli001
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Or kellys
covcity4life
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Allen
Kelly
Godden
Being replaced by 3 better younger players gives me a hard on alone
It's gonna be a good summer recruitment wise I think
Kelly
Godden
Being replaced by 3 better younger players gives me a hard on alone
It's gonna be a good summer recruitment wise I think
Do we need another 10 ?
I think one of the reasons we have conceded so many goals in 2024 is that we have too many attacking players and the balance isn’t quite right …
I think we might be better to have another powerful midfielder to match with Sheaf and Torp than a 10….
Wright,Simms, Tats, EMC, the Godden replacement and the new right winger should give us enough attacking threat and options ….
I think one of the reasons we have conceded so many goals in 2024 is that we have too many attacking players and the balance isn’t quite right …
I think we might be better to have another powerful midfielder to match with Sheaf and Torp than a 10….
Wright,Simms, Tats, EMC, the Godden replacement and the new right winger should give us enough attacking threat and options ….
BlueSkiesForever
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Been a long time since I was last on here but looking back at the season as a whole I genuinely think we need a lot more starting quality. It’s been really patched up at times and shooting ability just isn’t there. I watched the Ipswich game last night and it was genuinely entertaining for 90 minutes, players not afraid to have a long range shot at goal AND have the ability to hit the target.
To me the likes of Eccles, Kelly, Godden, Allen, Palmer, Dasilva etc just aren’t good enough to be relying on every week. They put in a great shift, absolutely, but the quality isn’t there, shots are wayward and the vision and execution is poor at times. I think next season should be the year where Doug invests a chunk of his own cash and we set ourselves the goal of the automatics. We need a better midfield and defence first and foremost, even a better keeper wouldn’t go a miss at times.
I love all our players for their commitment and effort but I think that only takes you so far, we need more pace and skill and ability and confidence to get promoted.
To me the likes of Eccles, Kelly, Godden, Allen, Palmer, Dasilva etc just aren’t good enough to be relying on every week. They put in a great shift, absolutely, but the quality isn’t there, shots are wayward and the vision and execution is poor at times. I think next season should be the year where Doug invests a chunk of his own cash and we set ourselves the goal of the automatics. We need a better midfield and defence first and foremost, even a better keeper wouldn’t go a miss at times.
I love all our players for their commitment and effort but I think that only takes you so far, we need more pace and skill and ability and confidence to get promoted.
Totally agree with this - don't need a 10, nice for an option (rudoni) we started off playing more 433, remember at Millwall and worked really well.
Sheaf/eccles/torp could be nice +another dynamic all rounder (Jamie Allen upgrade perhaps)
Now we can all step back. We have had to replace our entire squad, that's a HUGE challenge. It's a long term process and the 2nd big stage of that is the summer, adding the quality of depth.
Really think we have probably all underestimated how big job it was.
Just look at all the players we released last year, Rose at best done "OK" that's as good as it gets the rest are lower league at best.
Going to be exciting summer, trust Robins et al - lots of rumours and names about.
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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Pray tell me which manager will pay £8m. for him?
Hobo
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It was for this season at the start of the season.. it's all estimates I know, but it is going to be in the right ball park
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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IMO the only ones moving out will be Kelly and Godden because father time has caught up with them Eccles especially and Palmer will be first team players and rightly so Allen and Dasilva are good enough to be squad player like this season.
We need to make improvement where needed but cannot keep making wholesale changes every season
Diogenes
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Plenty of prem teams circling for him.
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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Are there name a couple and £8 m.I know there is plenty of money up there but come on .
Mucca Mad Boys
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Yes, we do because there's next to no goals in midfield. In the league campaign, we've mustered 12 goals all season from midfield compared to 9 goals from defence. It's not good enough.