Match Thread Blackburn Rovers - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 27th Apr (2 Viewers)

[Gynnsthetonic]

Just home from the game...i take it no point reading this thread as its all negative?
I was proud of the lads today, nothing to realistically play for yet the the way they fought to the bitter end with 10 men ifought was really commendable given they are literally out on their feet.
Will be champions next season. Mark my words.

Love your enthusiasm!

 

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[messiahrobins]

Love your enthusiasm!

Genuinely think will be us and Burnley vying for the title next season. We havent yet seen the best of this team, and at times we have looked unplayable so next season id think we will be alot better.
We do need more depth which im assuming will be addressed this summer.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I’d have been happy if today was game 46. It’s so glaringly obvious that we’ve burnt out.

Even as a fan, I’m burnt out, let alone the players!

A lot of positives to take from this campaign and we’re close to having the quality needed to challenge next season!

 

[2024/25 League 1 Champs?]

Will only happen if we have a stronger squad. Robins is a very good manager but not a miracle worker.

…not according to the ‘stats’ he’s not

 

[Flying Fokker]

So, were the

…not according to the ‘stats’ he’s not

Erm, thanks for that. Just City or all of his clubs. Huddersfied and Rotherham?

 

[2024/25 League 1 Champs?]

So, were the

Erm, thanks for that. Just City or all of his clubs. Huddersfied and Rotherham?

not sure, suggests city because of the badge but it could well be all clubs

I’m assuming you’ve not read the posts on this thread regarding ‘stats’ then…

 

[Grendel]

Best get Steve Evans in then

 

[stevefloyd]

Not sure if anyone else mentioned it but..

Godden, Kelly, Allen and Bidwell stood together after game and said goodbye to fans. Shocked by Bidwell.

Fadz did as well !

Don't mind Godden Kelly and Allen going but Bidwell is still more than useful, would rather Da Silva go but some fool gave him a longer contract

 

[shmmeee]

Dasilva has been excellent last few. Has a higher ceiling than Bidwell and suits our attacking play more IMO.

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

Best get Steve Evans in then

Have you dumped your god Kenny.

 

[ProfessorbyGrace]

check what? I’m not saying the stat is made up, I’m saying that it’s a nonsense to say that Sheaf is bad based on what was quoted, whether true or not it doesn’t really make a difference

You’re simply not getting the point. I haven’t said he’s a bad player, just that I think that the statistical evidence of what impact he has on the team (overall, result-wise) would be interesting to see.

I was trying to illustrate that, like someone else mentioned, someone’s opinion or view can often be clouded by a personal view.

not sure, suggests city because of the badge but it could well be all clubs

I’m assuming you’ve not read the posts on this thread regarding ‘stats’ then…

…and you still haven’t checked the validity of the original point made, by cross checking Sheafs involvement with overall team form, before making another petulant outburst.

 

[2024/25 League 1 Champs?]

You’re simply not getting the point. I haven’t said he’s a bad player, just that I think that the statistical evidence of what impact he has on the team (overall, result-wise) would be interesting to see.

I was trying to illustrate that, like someone else mentioned, someone’s opinion or view can often be clouded by a personal view.

…and you still haven’t checked the validity of the original point made, by cross checking Sheafs involvement with overall team form, before making another petulant outburst.

someone’s opinion is always ‘clouded by’ personal opinion you plonker, that’s why it’s a personal opinion….

my point (which I’d hardly call a petulant outburst, but whatever) is that most stats don’t really give a true picture and if you rely on one stat to show something it’s more likely than not to be a nonsense

…and in terms of your point about his involvement and overall team form, other than maybe the fact as captain he should pull other players up and motivate them, you can’t surely be suggesting what the team do is as a direct result of how he plays? that’s what makes it an almost meaningless stat, so there’s no point cross referencing - the only real meaningful numbers are how he performs in games, and I seem to recall these are on the whole excellent.

 

[2024/25 League 1 Champs?]

You’re simply not getting the point. I haven’t said he’s a bad player, just that I think that the statistical evidence of what impact he has on the team (overall, result-wise) would be interesting to see.

I was trying to illustrate that, like someone else mentioned, someone’s opinion or view can often be clouded by a personal view.

…and you still haven’t checked the validity of the original point made, by cross checking Sheafs involvement with overall team form, before making another petulant outburst.

by the way, having now checked this stat I’m not sure how you can take anything from it….

Ben Sheaf In - W11, D8, L10

Ben Sheaf Out - W6, D5, L4

So this season (roughly)…

we’ve won over a third of games with him in, and over a third with him out

and we’ve lost a third with him in, and a quarter with him out

which tells us…?

 

[Frostie]

by the way, having now checked this stat I’m not sure how you can take anything from it….

Ben Sheaf In - W11, D8, L10

Ben Sheaf Out - W6, D5, L4

So this season (roughly)…

we’ve won over a third of games with him in, and over a third with him out

and we’ve lost a third with him in, and a quarter with him out

which tells us…?

That Kai Andrews is our most important player, 100% win record.

 

[Deity]

Why did Robins have 2 keepers in the bench ??

a wasted opportunity for another outfield academy player.

if he wanted to give the young keeper some match day experience put him in the bench instead of Wilson.

 

[Balli001]

Why did Robins have 2 keepers in the bench ??

a wasted opportunity for another outfield academy player.

if he wanted to give the young keeper some match day experience put him in the bench instead of Wilson.

Maybe 1 pulled out late on

 

[Otis]

Maybe 1 pulled out late on

Exactly my thinking. Must have been a.late decision, or illness.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Exactly my thinking. Must have been a.late decision, or illness.

Man City have done this today. It happens quite a lot.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Stated the other day that Kitching isnt the level expected from within the club let alone us fans

Another example..

Just out of curiosity, why has Robins not really dropped Kitching? Especially given that we’d ideally make Binks a permanent signing.

I’m not doubting the info, but it just seems strange they have these concerns and continued playing him.

 

[Saddlebrains]

Just out of curiosity, why has Robins not really dropped Kitching? Especially given that we’d ideally make Binks a permanent signing.

I’m not doubting the info, but it just seems strange they have these concerns and continued playing him.

2 fold really. Even though we would like Binks, and Binks wants to stay, Bologna seem to think he deserves a huge joke price tag so the chances are minimal

Secondly, with the outlay on him, the club dont want to throw 4.5 million away without working as much as possible with him.

The frustration seems to be his pace on the turn back towards goal, he is slow to react on players making a curved well timed run (eg Stansfield for blues 3rd, and a few times before) and fitness levels are not where they need to be, which after 8 months here isn't great

We wont be selling him, and we will still be working to have him and Thomas as our starting partnership come August with a full pre season behind them and a proper rest

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

2 fold really. Even though we would like Binks, and Binks wants to stay, Bologna seem to think he deserves a huge joke price tag so the chances are minimal

Secondly, with the outlay on him, the club dont want to throw 4.5 million away without working as much as possible with him.

The frustration seems to be his pace on the turn back towards goal, he is slow to react on players making a curved well timed run (eg Stansfield for blues 3rd, and a few times before) and fitness levels are not where they need to be, which after 8 months here isn't great

We wont be selling him, and we will still be working to have him and Thomas as our starting partnership come August with a full pre season behind them and a proper rest

Can’t argue with any of that to be fair and it’s a real pity about Binks.

 

[stevefloyd]

Yeah, think it’s safe to say he rates Bidwell but he always tries to improve on him

I think Bidwell is sound to be honest more pressing positions to sort

well he failed miserably with Da Silva although to be fair to the lad he has played ok in the last couple of games

 

[stevefloyd]

2 fold really. Even though we would like Binks, and Binks wants to stay, Bologna seem to think he deserves a huge joke price tag so the chances are minimal

Secondly, with the outlay on him, the club dont want to throw 4.5 million away without working as much as possible with him.

The frustration seems to be his pace on the turn back towards goal, he is slow to react on players making a curved well timed run (eg Stansfield for blues 3rd, and a few times before) and fitness levels are not where they need to be, which after 8 months here isn't great

We wont be selling him, and we will still be working to have him and Thomas as our starting partnership come August with a full pre season behind them and a proper rest

To be absolutely fair to him its match fitness he wants and he wasn't played regularly so we probably haven't seen him at his absolute best

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah, think it’s safe to say he rates Bidwell but he always tries to improve on him

I think Bidwell is sound to be honest more pressing positions to sort

Need more than just Bidwell at LB for a minimum 48 game season though.

 

[TomRad85]

Need more than just Bidwell at LB for a minimum 48 game season though.

We'll have to stick with Dasilva as he's on a long contract.

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

We'll have to stick with Dasilva as he's on a long contract.

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Would prefer to avoid another 3 seasons of teams hoofing it over to his side of the pitch all game

 

[fernandopartridge]

Just out of curiosity, why has Robins not really dropped Kitching? Especially given that we’d ideally make Binks a permanent signing.

I’m not doubting the info, but it just seems strange they have these concerns and continued playing him.

Presumably to be filed in the same drawer as the "none of the squad rate any of the new signings" stuff from early on in the season

 

[Otis]

Can’t argue with any of that to be fair and it’s a real pity about Binks.

We can't be paying silly money for him, so may have to look elsewhere

 

[Grendel]

We can't be paying silly money for him, so may have to look elsewhere

We paid silly money for Kitching

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

We paid silly money for Kitching

Not quite on the Rhian Brewster scale of silly, but a bit on the high side for us; that said, the higher we try to progress, these type of outlays will have to happen, and we won't get every one right (not writing Kitching off yet, though)

 

[Otis]

We paid silly money for Kitching

Might not prove to be the case in time, though it has seemed high so far.

 

[Grendel]

Might not prove to be the case in time, though it has seemed high so far.

It’s a huge fee for a league 1 centre back. If you believe the fee it’s higher than MVE

 

[skyblue_55]

One way out of this melee , might be player swops , with the likes of Peterborough ?
There play off chances ( if they fall short ) might be a way of offering some of our players as part payment for their seemingly ‘ up & coming ‘ stars ?

 

[ProfessorbyGrace]

by the way, having now checked this stat I’m not sure how you can take anything from it….

Ben Sheaf In - W11, D8, L10

Ben Sheaf Out - W6, D5, L4

So this season (roughly)…

we’ve won over a third of games with him in, and over a third with him out

and we’ve lost a third with him in, and a quarter with him out

which tells us

I’ll check the stats myself and get back to you, as I prefer to find out firsthand. However, getting the time to do so is rare.

I do believe, however, Earlsdon was referring to his overall involvement, from his first season here. As that would give a clearer indication of what he was claiming, if indeed it’s true.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Dasilva has been excellent last few. Has a higher ceiling than Bidwell and suits our attacking play more IMO.

Agreed. I’d just keep them both and go horses for courses depending on opposition and/or match situation. Bigger priorities for cash to be spent elsewhere.

I still believe that the core of this squad with some more depth plus one or two quality signings, should be challenging next year