Sbarcher
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Hopefully another 2 add-ons will be kicking in before any sale.
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Londonccfcfan
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He has alot to do if he's going to better than Robbie Keane. Not even close yet. Keane had about 100 premier league goals by the age 26.
I'd settle for 2nd best.
My son reckons Gyokores best ever....I'm afraid few of us older ones have put him right.
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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Dublin also has to be better surely
Londonccfcfan
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Now your stretching modern day. Keano just get in as it's 2000s.
What does modern day even mean.
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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Ohhh modern day yeah makes sense then, to be fair I’d say last 10/15 years is modern day
Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon
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I wonder how Dublin would get on if playing now, don't see anywhere near as many headers scored now do we? People saying he's not modern day does give me a bit of a reminder i'm not as young as i might act
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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I bet he’d still be lethal for a team whipping balls in, but he wasnt just good in the air he was also a bloody good finisherI wonder how Dublin would get on if playing now, don't see anywhere near as many headers scored now do we? People saying he's not modern day does give me a bit of a reminder i'm not as young as i might act
Brighton Sky Blue
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Someone like him would still be as effective. It’s in the wide areas and at CB where the game has changed mostI wonder how Dublin would get on if playing now, don't see anywhere near as many headers scored now do we? People saying he's not modern day does give me a bit of a reminder i'm not as young as i might act
Gleneagles65
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2 goals in a minute late on tonight.
skybluecam
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If he goes to Arsenal or similar and wins the Prem/CL he quickly becomes the greatest player we've had here surely.
oscillatewildly
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Nothing, absolutely nothing will dislodge Mick Harford's one from one.
Genuinely, who is paying that money for him?
He’s better off moving this summer if he’s going to move whilst his stock is high, but I cannot see who will spend the big money. Tottenham, Arsenal and Chelsea need a striker. But will they pay?
Maybe Sporting manager ends up at Chelsea or United in the summer and makes him number 1 priority, but seen he’s been talking to West Ham.
I do fear a lot of our Summer plans are riding on Gyokeres moving on.
He’s better off moving this summer if he’s going to move whilst his stock is high, but I cannot see who will spend the big money. Tottenham, Arsenal and Chelsea need a striker. But will they pay?
Maybe Sporting manager ends up at Chelsea or United in the summer and makes him number 1 priority, but seen he’s been talking to West Ham.
I do fear a lot of our Summer plans are riding on Gyokeres moving on.
Brighton Sky Blue
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By that measure so is Jordan Henderson
Bizarrely he probably should be classed as one of them, certainly in recent times. 80 caps and captained England as well as winning a title etc
Kingokings204
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He was just a loan. Does that count?
Brighton Sky Blue
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He’s a player we had here so I’d say so.
biggymania
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Coming back to these deal details... if the 15% sell on is based on "capital gains" then I think that means a 100M transfer fee received for Gyokeres would net us 11.1M EUR if the 4M EUR of "individual and collective" targets have already been met.
Some hasty maths...
100M - 26M in costs for Sporting (that includes the 2M of agent fees) = 74M EUR capital gain for Sporting - 10% of which is 7.4M EUR
If none of the 4M bonuses are paid (feels very unlikely given the "individual and collective" performance of Sporting & Gyok):
100M - 22M in costs for Sporting (that includes the 2M of agent fees) = 78M EUR capital gain for Sporting - 15% of which is 11.7M EUR
So if a 100M EUR deal is reached for Gyokeres, then we'd net around £9.75M to £10M on the kick back.
Lots of people getting confused about how this works quite rightly and assuming we get 15% of 100M or 15M EUR or £13M. We'd need a serious bidding war - I would be amazed if he actually goes for 100M even though I think he could command this sort of fee - you need a couple of clubs to get there I think - Sporting may cash in at a lower valuation.
Brighton Sky Blue
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I think Sporting will say that if clubs really want him after just a season it’s the release clause or no dice. And given who’s interested, those clubs can afford it and will likely pay it.
Mucca Mad Boys
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€100m in today’s market for a striker is not that ridiculous. With Sporting having a high sell-on clause they’re going to maximise their gains too.
Gyokeres has the same amount of goals (with 2 games remaining) in the Portuguese league as Nunez the season before Liverpool spent €100 million signing him.
biggymania
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I'm not totally up to speed with who has the budget (considering all the FFP stuff flying around) to drop 100M this summer. Liverpool certainly could if a Saudi team comes in for Sala. I know Arsenal were talked about as having scouted Gyok too, but not sure how much they have to spend.
Londonccfcfan
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Not including loans. We owned Robbie Keane.
If he does leave Sporting, while they could accept below €100m it will be very close to that figure I reckon. There are not many ‘top’ number 9s out there and Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool have form paying those kind of sums. Aside from being a beast, he’s got goals, assists and doesn’t get injured or suspended much.
fernandopartridge
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Surely Chelsea are out of the running due to FFP? Hard to see Liverpool dropping another big fee on a striker so soon after the last one. That leaves Arsenal. Could Spurs afford him?
I know what you mean about Chelsea but if they sell Gallagher and palm a few off to Saudi, there’ll be funds. Silva will be off the wage bill. It’s possible.
A new Liverpool manager will want a marquee signing, especially if they can still get a good fee for Salah.
biggymania
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To me it seems pretty obvious this was a very smart stepping stone move for him but if Amorim does stay at Sporting, there's definitely an argument that he stays to have a crack in the Champion's League.
However, realistically Sporting are not going to be challenging for Champion's League silverware. If Sporting win the league as is likely and they're also in the finals of their domestic cup... so he has really maximised his opportunity at Sporting already and if he gets injured or fails to improve upon this year (what a massive task!) it could turn out that this summer was the best opportunity for him.
Sbarcher
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I don’t think Palm a will leave.!
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HadjiChippo
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40 in 46 with 15 assists is absolutely mental numbers
You’d have to think he’ll want Champions league football so that’ll rule out Tottenham and Chelsea (who can’t be spending another £90 million on one player anyway). Man Utd have a big enough name that they could probably lure him but would need to sell a bunch of overpaid players first. Liverpool probably need to persevere with Nunez considering his price.
Leaves only Arsenal realistically, and across the continent probably only Real Madrid have the finances to meet the release clause, and they’ve signed Mbappe already.
EDIT: forgot about PSG of course, they’d have the money and Vik would smash that league, but a pretty uninspiring transfer for the neutral.
You’d have to think he’ll want Champions league football so that’ll rule out Tottenham and Chelsea (who can’t be spending another £90 million on one player anyway). Man Utd have a big enough name that they could probably lure him but would need to sell a bunch of overpaid players first. Liverpool probably need to persevere with Nunez considering his price.
Leaves only Arsenal realistically, and across the continent probably only Real Madrid have the finances to meet the release clause, and they’ve signed Mbappe already.
EDIT: forgot about PSG of course, they’d have the money and Vik would smash that league, but a pretty uninspiring transfer for the neutral.
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biggymania
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Worth remembering he (very likely) gets Champion's League football at Sporting next season - but I do think that is a big ask for them to succeed there.
The format is also going to be vastly different in 24/25 so who knows how that will pan out:
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HadjiChippo
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With Sporting I think it’s more, if that amount of money comes in, would they even want him to stay? That’s a huge transfer fee that can only diminish as time goes on.Worth remembering he (very likely) gets Champion's League football at Sporting next season - but I do think that is a big ask for them to succeed there.
The format is also going to be vastly different in 24/25 so who knows how that will pan out:
New format for Champions League post-2024: Everything you need to know | UEFA Champions League
The 2024/25 edition of the UEFA Champions League will follow a new format. We explain what will change, what will stay the same, what it means for fans and how it impacts UEFA's other club competitions.www.uefa.com
Might be a case of Sporting getting their bones picked in the summer, seeing Hjulmand linked with Man Utd as well, and clubs linked with Marcus Edwards too.
biggymania
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Of course, but if those bids don't come in at the right level then he might be convinced to stay if Amorim also stays. Both are a stretch though, suspect both intend to move onto the right opportunity as soon as it comes.
Alkhen
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Am I right in thinking Brighton will get a cut of anything we make? Much like how we got bits and pieces through the years whenever Maddison moved