Tiredness (5 Viewers)
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larry_david
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He did it with Godden as well two seasons ago where he blocked a shot in the first half and carried on another 30 mins and then was ruled out for 2 months with an ankle injury from it.
His lack of trust in the kids really does wind me up. Lati has been shite for the last 2 months but he's played every position under the sun and every game, he's known to be injured so is it his fault he's absolutely knackered?
You try playing footy week in week out when you're knackered, injured and confidence is shot from being flogged every game.
MR needs to trust his squad more and i'm sorry but he needs to start protecting his players too. Dausch last night proved in that 6 mins that he could at least do something positive, use them more.
Hahah shut up Boosh
Spot on. We’ve been shocking in the past few games, but a poor run will look even worse when you’ve got a squad the size of ours playing through injuries and fixture congestion.
What are you on about, the only one that enjoys losing is Grendel so he can complain about Robins.
Sky Blue Pete
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This thread shows just how quickly robins will be looking for another job. The thin patience and perspective is alarming but not a surprise
You say this so I’ve just looked at stats from last season to this of minutes played
22/23 season minutes played in 51 matches for the top 11 players in terms of minutes played
Gyokeres 4377
Wilson 4260
Bidwell 3963
Doyle 3819
Hamer 3758
Fadz 3758
Sheaf 3174
Allen 3085
Eccles 2619
Panzo 2304
Godden 2160
Total minutes played 34154
Now compare to this season but over 52 matches
Thomas 4021
Eccles 3676
MVE 3522
Lati 3357
Wright 3307
Simms 3134
Sheaf 2881
Collins 2730
Kitching 2568
JDS 2548
Bidwell 2410.
Total minutes played 36835.
So between the 11 they played 2700 minutes more.
so last season in less games (by 1) all of the top 9 players played more minutes than the top 9 in this season but they have had an extra match to play those minutes in.
So how come tiredness and fatigue is such a massive problem this season but not last?
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Otis
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Yup. It's been a very decent season for us and we have only fallen short at the last hurdle due to squad size.
But already there is so much slating of Robins it's untrue.
I'm not surprised either, but it is very sad to behold.
fernandopartridge
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Hamer and Gyokeres too to be fair
fernandopartridge
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We've got 2 players in the top 100 most minutes played this season (Thomas and Eccles). The top 50 includes more than that each from the top 3 teams.
Granted, we had the cup on top but we rested some players in the 3rd, 4th and 5th round.
The deterioration in form began before the recent block of games.
Granted, we had the cup on top but we rested some players in the 3rd, 4th and 5th round.
The deterioration in form began before the recent block of games.
Nick
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It's even when we have been in positions to give players run outs where we have either lost the game or we are winning by a margin so can give some youngsters a run out and get minutes in other players legs.
He doesn't seem to want or know how to rotate a squad.
clint van damme
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larry_david
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Agree, I always hark back to the one of the first seasons back in the Championship and he was banging the 'players are knackered' drum and we were 3 or 4-0 up against Rotherham with 20 mins to go and he refused to make a single sub.
And then post match 'we're out on our feet'
fernandopartridge
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The other point worth making on tiredness is that the league fixtures were condensed into shorter periods because of the world cup break last season
shmmeee
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But equally we got a midsession break.
I think the biggest difference is we had a mostly settled squad aside from Palmer coming in and the loanees so levels were where Robins wanted them already.
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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Tiredness ?
How did the likes of Liverpool, Leeds and Nottingham Forest win all them league titles between them back in the day, playing 60 games, with Cup games and European games a season with ONLY ONE sub allowed with smaller squad's.
And they say the players of today are fitter. LOL.
How did the likes of Liverpool, Leeds and Nottingham Forest win all them league titles between them back in the day, playing 60 games, with Cup games and European games a season with ONLY ONE sub allowed with smaller squad's.
And they say the players of today are fitter. LOL.
Sky Blue Harry H
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Was anyone else concerned when MVE went on a couple of runs late in the game last night and got hacked down. Each time I was waiting to see if it was a serious one, as he looked completely shattered (despite being able to sprint). I do think players are more prone to injury when they are fatigued (and I don't think MR is making excuses, just giving explanations for some performances)
MikeyMoo
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We may have had a dip in form but we were still scoring a lot of goals. It's a defensive midfield/defense problem, which we didn't have last year, it's been off an on all season. Out attack can't really be faulted. Godden got goals in the first 10 games, then it was the midfield, then Simms/Wright who may still end up with 20 each this season. But at the back (and I don't know to what extent the midfield cover) we had inexperience, some reckless or poor decisions, a string of own goals it seems, keeper jeepers. I don't think we need a change of personel, just a better all round season in this regard. Our defense was really good last season with all the loan players, I'd like to think it will be that good again next season, and we'll be even better going forwards. Midfield strength TBD.
mmttww
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You're assuming he says the same things to them as he does to the media which is pretty naive.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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If you compared the intensity of top level football then to now it's far quicker now. It'd look L1 standard now.
With sports science players are pushed to their limits. Back in the day they'd be in the pub smoking a fag an hour after a game.
Nick
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When he's going to the media every week to excuse them for being tired they are getting a free pass publically.
shmmeee
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Sounds like good management to me. Praise in public criticise in private.
robbiekeane
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I think everyone needs to calm the fuck down. So we had a wobble and robins ran out of ideas in the last quarter of the season when he had all the hype from the cup run. We’ve had some key injuries and didn’t strengthen like we wanted to in January.
Chill out. The fact we’ve been in with a chance most of the season and the cup run is amazing given all of the dribblers on here in the first ten games
On we march
Chill out. The fact we’ve been in with a chance most of the season and the cup run is amazing given all of the dribblers on here in the first ten games
On we march
mmttww
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Come on! The MR that the players get is the bloke caught on camera telling Godden to "f*cking work harder, then!" when we were three-nil up vs. M'Boro.
'Every week'? You're making stuff up. No chance he's talked about tiredness anywhere near that often. It wasn't the focus of his comments Tue night, either.
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What happens if he just keeps calling them shit instead?
DrPoolittle
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Nick
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Funnily it gets talked about more when our form completely dropped off..
Almost like they’re connected somehow!
mmttww
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Why would a manager come out and say "Yeah, we're in great form. Did you know half the squad is knackered and carrying knocks?".
You think he's giving players a free pass, I don't. I think you're taking one or two comments he made as a stick to beat him with. Don't get it.