Ellis Simms (4 Viewers)

pusbccfc

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Theoretically, we do sell Simms and Sheaf for £25m. We would be in a far better place than when we sold Hamer and Gyokeres... Surely?
 

biggymania

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Sheaf I think is at the top of his valuation with us, the same isn't true for Simms in my opinion. He still has further to grow & develop and has 4 years left on his deal.

It would be shooting ourselves in the foot to sell Simms unless the offer was really crazy.
 

Liquid Gold

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Wouldn't be worried if we lost Simms either.

He's been immense since Jan and will be immense next year but we would need an absurd offer to move him with 3 years on his deal and the English tax that we could easily break our record fee to replace him.

I don't think he'll go anyway. Might be agent stirring for a new deal.
 

fatso

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I think it was being dropped, getting a few odd mins here and there that killed his confidence ….
He got dropped because he was absolute fucking dog shit for ages!

Amazing how peoples perception changes when a player finally shows an improvement in work rate and effort, and its amazing how his form improved once he pulled his head out of his arse.

Credit where its due, he finally showed what he's capable of, it's just a pity it took so long.
 

TomRad85

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He got dropped because he was absolute fucking dog shit for ages!

Amazing how peoples perception changes when a player finally shows an improvement in work rate and effort, and its amazing how his form improved once he pulled his head out of his arse.

Credit where its due, he finally showed what he's capable of, it's just a pity it took so long.
Oh dear. It was obvious he should have been playing over Godden who is now absolutely done at Championship level. Fair play to Simms for ramming the words back down the doubters throats.

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SleepyGinger

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Not advocating selling him but we built a whole team with 35 million last summer, if we got similar for sheaf and Simms I’d like to see the squad we could put together.
 

TomRad85

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Bloke behind me doesn’t know what to do anymore now he can’t shout abuse at Wright and Simms…the bellend
Yep they've both completely embarrassed quite a few

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Brighton Sky Blue

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Not advocating selling him but we built a whole team with 35 million last summer, if we got similar for sheaf and Simms I’d like to see the squad we could put together.
You’d have to replace two pretty important players once again. What we’re doing in practice gives us 2 seasons to go up before we need to sell and rebuild.

We need to think more about next summer’s window, let alone this one. For me that means successors for Simms and MVE in particular and quite possibly even Sakamoto. Let’s make it easier for ourselves.
 

Skyblue Bangkok

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Whispers coming from the club that he's attracting a lot of interest and isn't against a quick move back to the PL or another higher level league.
You can't blame him for that , however I think it's better for him to show if he can score as many next season then look at moving if the club agrees.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I really don't see anyone paying the ~£15m it would need to get him.
It wouldn’t be daft for Everton to bid for him with the in built discount they’d get and him being a home grown player. Plus they’re always partial to a stupidly inflated fee or two.
 

cstring82

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Bloke behind me doesn’t know what to do anymore now he can’t shout abuse at Wright and Simms…the bellend
You’re not in Block 23 are you…
The lad (moron) was bit over the top with the f’ing and hefting last night as his dad wasn’t there to keep him in line and everyone including Simms and Wright targeted again!
 

TomRad85

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Again if you can sell really high you kind of have to but it starts to become a worryingly high turnover of players again.

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Cov4life

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15 -20 million for simms? I’d drive him there

Scored a few goals but I’m just not sure on him
 

djr8369

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Bloke behind me doesn’t know what to do anymore now he can’t shout abuse at Wright and Simms…the bellend
I have a bloke like they behind me. Relentless moaning every game. Tempted to move seats but I’ll probably get another dickhead
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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I have a bloke like they behind me. Relentless moaning every game. Tempted to move seats but I’ll probably get another dickhead


Same as on here then. 🤣
 

Diogenes

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He's come on massively and is one of the first names on the team sheet for me. I was a huge critic before Christmas but have eaten my words and a few slices of humble pie. I don't want him to go anywhere and hope he stays and continues to develop as he is.

However, and this may be a bit picky, you can't ignore the fact 6 of those goals came in two games against very poor opposition. Take those out and 13 goals is still good first season but it's not world beating.

It feels weird to say this of a 19 goal striker, but it doesn't feel like he has consistently been a thorn in the side of teams (a la vic) or who will win a game by himself out of nowhere. His profile has been elevated massively by the big cup goals and if someone comes in with a ridiculously good offer we have to move him on.

I just have this feeling that his head is liable to drop and he is likely to return to early season form for long periods when the chips are down.
 

biggymania

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I don't think you can expect many strikers like Gyokeres to come along often, so comparing Simms or anyone to him is just a waste of time.

For me Simms is growing in confidence, his movement is getting better and he is beginning to use his physique much more. To have more than replaced Gyokeres' goals with him and Wright is a good platform to build on.

In games recently where he hasn't factored, I think that's more down to the way we're playing than him. I see him working hard and making space, but we're not moving the ball fast enough and in the right areas.

There's more to come from him, I think.
 

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