Do you want to discuss boring politics? (39 Viewers)

[Grendel]

It's the sneering and looking down on people as if they're shit on his shoe just because they do certain jobs or didn't get to benefit from low house prices like him.

Yet child sex abuse references are all well and good

 

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[PVA]

Yet child sex abuse references are all well and good

It's a joke from South Park. Take it up with Trey Parker and Matt Stone if you have a problem with it

 

[Grendel]

It's a joke from South Park. Take it up with Trey Parker and Matt Stone if you have a problem with it

Ah it’s a joke - hilarious

 

[SBT]

PVA and Shmmeee a marriage truly made in irrelevancy heaven

It does seem somewhat telling that various people of different political stripes (myself included) all seem to independently find you generally quite unpleasant and tedious these days. It would be cause for self-reflection among most people but you seem to be bunkering into the mentality that it’s everyone else who is wrong and irrelevant and stupid, while you’re the forum superstar.

 

[Grendel]

It does seem somewhat telling that various people of different political stripes (myself included) all seem to independently find you generally quite unpleasant and tedious these days. It would be cause for self-reflection among most people but you seem to be bunkering into the mentality that it’s everyone else who is wrong and irrelevant and stupid, while you’re the forum superstar.

Who are these various people?

 

[Johnnythespider]

Raynor investigation dropped!

Quelle surprise

 

[SBT]

Who are these various people?

If you can’t tell then that’s even more worrying. You’re currently arguing with three different people on this thread alone.

 

[PVA]

Raynor investigation dropped!

Dan Hodges might explode.

 

[clint van damme]

Dan Hodges might explode.

He called her SCUM! And it was him that capitalised it.

 

[Grendel]

If you can’t tell then that’s even more worrying. You’re currently arguing with three different people on this thread alone.

And? With respect you are all rather dull and irrelevant to me - big deal

 

[PVA]

He called her SCUM! And it was him that capitalised it.

 

[David O'Day]

He called her SCUM! And it was him that capitalised it.

Well he is the excellent Dan Hodges

 

[Grendel]

If you can’t tell then that’s even more worrying. You’re currently arguing with three different people on this thread alone.

This is actually a disturbing post when you think about it

 

[clint van damme]

Well he is the excellent Dan Hodges

Think I've fallen victim to a spoof account, it wasn't him, sorry Dan, (but youre still a ringpiece).

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

This election will be closer than everyone thinks, the polls have narrowed from a Labour lead of 20 points 12 today.

If Starmer makes the same mistake as May in 2017 by trying to win an election with no real policies, he could mess up big time and perhaps squander a majority.

I won’t vote Labour, but it’s time the Tories get kicked out to reinvent themselves.

 

[Sick Boy]

This election will be closer than everyone thinks, the polls have narrowed from a Labour lead of 20 points 12 today.

If Starmer makes the same mistake as May in 2017 by trying to win an election with no real policies, he could mess up big time and perhaps squander a majority.

I won’t vote Labour, but it’s time the Tories get kicked out to reinvent themselves.

Predicted ages ago though it'd be a hung parliament and wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being the case.

 

[Grendel]

Well he is the excellent Dan Hodges

These days I’m beginning to think are you a spare part or a Unipart

 

[PVA]

This election will be closer than everyone thinks, the polls have narrowed from a Labour lead of 20 points 12 today.

In one poll.

The lead has got bigger in some other polls.

 

[wingy]

In one poll.

The lead has got bigger in some other polls.

And who has the vote share gone to, dream on fella's!!

 

[David O'Day]

Think I've fallen victim to a spoof account, it wasn't him, sorry Dan, (but youre still a ringpiece).

You sure it wasn't his real account? It does read like a parody most of the time.

 

[clint van damme]

This election will be closer than everyone thinks, the polls have narrowed from a Labour lead of 20 points 12 today.

If Starmer makes the same mistake as May in 2017 by trying to win an election with no real policies, he could mess up big time and perhaps squander a majority.

I won’t vote Labour, but it’s time the Tories get kicked out to reinvent themselves.

What polls?
The ones I'm seeing still have Labour around 20%.

 

[Grendel]

And who has the vote share gone to, dream on fella's!!

If grown ups are going to engage it’s clearly Reform - as the SDP did in the day - that’s making the gap

 

[David O'Day]

This election will be closer than everyone thinks, the polls have narrowed from a Labour lead of 20 points 12 today.

If Starmer makes the same mistake as May in 2017 by trying to win an election with no real policies, he could mess up big time and perhaps squander a majority.

I won’t vote Labour, but it’s time the Tories get kicked out to reinvent themselves.

A number of polls have widened?

 

[wingy]

If grown ups are going to engage it’s clearly Reform - as the SDP did in the day - that’s making the gap

Who I suspected!

 

[David O'Day]

What polls?
The ones I'm seeing still have Labour around 20%.

IK think there is one but as you said most seem to be slightly widening or staying the same

 

[wingy]

IK think there is one but as you said most seem to be slightly widening or staying the same

Source, sample size etc?

 

[PVA]

Just looked at the poll which shows a 12pt lead.

Bit misleading, as it's not a poll but a model.

Their actual poll has it as a 16pt lead then they've modelled some data and got to 12.

 

[David O'Day]

Source, sample size etc?

more a case of not taking one poll as evidence. It's the general trends you need to look out for

 

[Johnnythespider]

If it's the opinium one its been closer since the weekend, most others have it at between 22 and 26%

 

[Philosoraptor]

And? With respect you are all rather dull and irrelevant to me - big deal

Only person I have ever blocked.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

In one poll.

The lead has got bigger in some other polls.

The polls will almost always narrow in an election. Pre-election, opposition parties benefit from dissatisfaction with the government. During the election cycle, the opposition parties get more scrutiny for obvious reasons.

The chips are down now and Labour will need to the electorate what they stand for and their policy programme.

 

[PVA]

The polls will almost always narrow in an election. Pre-election, opposition parties benefit from dissatisfaction with the government. During the election cycle, the opposition parties get more scrutiny for obvious reasons.

The chips are down now and Labour will need to the electorate what they stand for and their policy programme.

Of course, don't disagree with any of that but a 12pt lead is very much an outlier at this stage.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

If grown ups are going to engage it’s clearly Reform - as the SDP did in the day - that’s making the gap

Somewhat agree, a lot of people are probably going to be disappointed with a new Labour government because not much will change. We can’t afford to fund the NHS or new social projects without increasing the tax burden even further.

Both Tory and Labour have come out with bad policies in recent days:
1. VAT on private schools is going to raise next to no revenue and probably strain state education
2. Triple lock-plus pensions makes an already hideously expensive policy more expensive and widen the generation divide

This has been the least enthusiastic I’ve been for an election since I’ve been of voting age.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Somewhat agree, a lot of people are probably going to be disappointed with a new Labour government because not much will change. We can’t afford to fund the NHS or new social projects without increasing the tax burden even further.

Both Tory and Labour have come out with bad policies in recent days:
1. VAT on private schools is going to raise next to no revenue and probably strain state education
2. Triple lock-plus pensions makes an already hideously expensive policy more expensive and widen the generation divide

This has been the least enthusiastic I’ve been for an election since I’ve been of voting age.

Hideously expensive to pay some of the worst state pensions in Europe

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Of course, don't disagree with any of that but a 12pt lead is very much an outlier at this stage.

It doesn’t surprise me, it’s more voting intention for Reform and Lib Dem dropping off. My best guess would be that small percentage is ex-Tory voters coming to terms with the prospect of a Labour government.

That and the tories have announced policies which tends to bump the polls a bit.

It’s too early in the election cycle for polls to be meaningful. Sunak probably picked the best time for an election - if we can define a ‘best’ time…