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The whole move was excellent and makes those who claim Wright is lazy look like idiots.
Callum O'Hare (8 Viewers)
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eyesee
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wright's not lazy, he's just laidback.
just 'cause he doesn't chase every lost cause doesn't make him lazy.
when he needs to he switches it on, usually to good effect.
skybluecam
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Don't really see how a top 10 prem club signing a 26yo who's never played higher than the championship can be brilliant
David O'Day
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Especially as they have players better in his role and are looking at getting to the next level.
He's not as good as say Benrahma who they have shipped out
skybluecam
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Exactly, I like O'hare, great player for us and would keep him if possible.
But there are plenty of players who excel in the championship and struggle to contribute for bottom half sides (see: Adam Armstrong etc). To expect a player who’s had a decent but not outstanding season to add anything to a side chasing European qualification is madness imo.
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Surely a fair few of prem players when they make their debut has played at a lesser standard - only the overseas named players have come from maybe a better standard - Gyok if he moves is exactly the same - lesser club - lesser league - doesn't mean it cannot be a brilliant signing, just depends on what the player goes on to achieve
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Mason-Clark will soon be 25 and has never played higher than League 1. Sorry if this triggers TomRad.
shmmeee
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It was his attitude that was the problem. Turning it on for the first time in his City career when he needed a move then immediately turning it back off again. That and generally acting a bit billy big bollocks.
pusbccfc
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Because teams like West Ham need depth. He's a cheap gamble.
It's easy to forget how good he is. In that period he came back, he was playing well above this level.
skybluecam
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Yes but Gyok is clearly the best player in the league.
So he's 24. And has been one of the best players in the league, Cal hasn't.
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fatso
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Jamie Vardy went from non league to the championship, to the Premier league to winning the Premier league!
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He was for a period after he came back.
fatso
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West ham (or any other Premier league team) could sign him on a free, then sell him back to a championship side next season for 4 or 5 million.
If they pay him £40k a week (£2 million a year) they'll easily double their money without him even needing to kick a ball.
It's a financial win win situation!
skybluecam
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What championship team will match 40k a week (for 2/3 years) after he's sat on the bench for a year?
David O'Day
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They are spending 25 million quid on a Brazilian who can play 10 or left or right.
They are shopping above that level
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David O'Day
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O'Hare isn't as good as him
fatso
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Any championship team getting parachute payments. Or any championship club selling players to the Premiership, or rich foreign clubs for big money. Or any championship club with rich backers.
£40k a week is £2 million a year, if you sell a Gyokeres type for £20 million your laughing.
We could sell Sheaf for £10 million and afford to pay a player £40k a week plus £4million transfer fee. Over a 3 year contract we've spent nothing (effectively) and could even make a profit if we sell after 2 years.
David O'Day
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No one in the championship is going to pay him 40k a week, he'll end up staying at West Ham the whole of his contract then leaving on a free if that happened.
pusbccfc
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They will be getting O'Hare on a free. If their expensive midfielders get injured, he's a good player to step in.
pusbccfc
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No, but he's good enough to play backup figure at West Ham.
For O'Hare, it's a gamble. He could play no more than 10 games next season. However, he's a confident lad who works very hard. Hell be keen to push for a spot.
skybluecam
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I'll chuck £20 in the ST fund if he signs for West Ham
fatso
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£40k a week wouldn't even get him near the top wages payed to championship players THIS season, never mind 2 seasons time.
If you've got parachute payments you could easily pay £40k. Southampton were paying Ward-Prowse £100k a week, and over £40k to a number of others, Leicester were paying over £80k a week to a number of their players. Leeds were paying Jack Harrison £100k a week and others £50k+
We are near the bottom of the Championship for squad budgets, and yet are supposedly paying our top earners £25k a week.
skybluecam
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JWP and Harrison left?
fatso
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For Premier league football, but their contracts were valid after relegation.
Vardy (like many others at Leicester) played in the Champuonship on £80k+
Leicester are paying Daka £75k a week and he only played half a season.
David O'Day
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No, he's not at the level they want as a back up. He is not good enough to step in at a PL team who wants to be chasing Europe.
Sorry but it's delusional to think he is.
fernandopartridge
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Because he's English and free
David O'Day
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And not good enough for the level they aim to be at.
They also have a load of promising young English players coming through their academy.
You can say they want as "depth" but the drop in ability from their first team squad to O'Hare is massive.
TomRad85
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No triggering me. I like O'Hare and I think EMC will make a few on here look like absolute chumps.
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TomRad85
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I think I've said it before on here that I think some on here talk about even the most bog standard of Premier League players as if they are super human. Loads of Wolves players I thought looked very average against us and obviously even some players at Man Utd. Think O'Hare could do ok in the Prem... not spectacular, but fine.
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Who will he make look like a chump? I don’t think anyone has said they don't rate him. For my part I haven’t seen him play. I was just stating a fact which you seem to think means I don't rate him. I was just rebutting the view that Wright is somehow going to be left out of the team because we bought Mason-Clark.
TomRad85
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Well we've been here before haven't we.. what was your point exactly?
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That it's unlikely that Wright won't start the season because we bought Mason-Clark. I thought I was quite clear.