Germany Attack (15 Viewers)

[Jamesimus]

Perhaps we could have a little bet?

I'll stick my neck out and say there's a 90% + chance of the bloke being Muslim.

For those of us old enough to remember, there was a time when knife attacks in public places, vehicular attacks, and suicide bombings were unknown.

These arrived with the Religion of Peace.

 

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[SBT]

there was a time when knife attacks in public places were unknown

The Bronze Age?

 

[Jamesimus]

Perhaps we could have a little bet?

I'll stick my neck out and say there's a 90% + chance of the bloke being Muslim.

For those of us old enough to remember, there was a time when knife attacks in public places, vehicular attacks, and suicide bombings were unknown.

These arrived with the Religion of Peace.

Mad that your birth pre-dates Islam AND acts of terrorism. You must be old as fuck!

 

[Jamesimus]

The Bronze Age?

Quick, let’s get this poster carbon dated.

 

[SBT]

I'll stick my neck out and say there's a 90% + chance of the bloke being Muslim.

I’ve already gone with 99%, so once he wakes up in a few hours ESB is going to be extremely cross with you

 

[Sick Boy]

Perhaps we could have a little bet?

I'll stick my neck out and say there's a 90% + chance of the bloke being Muslim.

For those of us old enough to remember, there was a time when knife attacks in public places, vehicular attacks, and suicide bombings were unknown.

These arrived with the Religion of Peace.

And MPs being shot dead in the UK arrived with far right terrorists?

 

[Jamesimus]

And MPs being shot dead in the UK arrived with far right mentally ill blokes

Edited for @Harry Krishner

 

[PVA]

Perhaps we could have a little bet?

I'll stick my neck out and say there's a 90% + chance of the bloke being Muslim.

For those of us old enough to remember, there was a time when knife attacks in public places, vehicular attacks, and suicide bombings were unknown.

These arrived with the Religion of Peace.

You're missing the point.

1) Nobody has said he isn't Muslim. But news organisations have to wait for confirmation before they can report something as factual. It was only a month or so that some people on here got all giddy over an apparent Muslim attacker, only for it to turn out to be false.

2) Betting on the race or religion of a knife attacker seems... pretty fucking weird.

 

[wingy]

Whatever his religion someone who goes to a rally with a knife, happy now?

 

[clint van damme]

Perhaps we could have a little bet?

I'll stick my neck out and say there's a 90% + chance of the bloke being Muslim.

For those of us old enough to remember, there was a time when knife attacks in public places, vehicular attacks, and suicide bombings were unknown.

These arrived with the Religion of Peace.

What absolute bollocks, we had all sorts of shit going on before Islamic terrorism became a thing, that doesn't excuse them but its not a new thing.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Usual suspects wanking themselves silly that they're actually right this time.

 

[wingy]

What absolute bollocks, we had all sorts of shit going on before Islamic terrorism became a thing, that doesn't excuse them but its not a new thing.

What is comparable Clint, the IRA?

 

[Sick Boy]

What is comparable Clint, the IRA?

Also far-right terrorists/traitors bombing London.

 

[clint van damme]

What is comparable Clint, the IRA?

IRA, Loyalist paramilitaries, David Copland, that's just of the top of my head.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Popish plots were pretty similar... including the predisposition of people to see every event as linked to them, even if the evidence was totally fictitious in certain instances. I know it's an extreme and oblique example, but it shows how events happen over a period of time, just the characters change. How they're represented has startling similarities too, but it consoles people that there's an unreasonable evil enemy you see, and occasionally actual events turn up to reaffirm the totality.

I know some people on this thread only like to think that experts should be listened to when they put themselves up as said expert, but they do show themselves up as embarrassing with their bloodlust to confirm a set of people as evil in comparison to their good. Communication also allows people to know about random attacks across the globe nowadays. You reckon the average Coventrian of the 17th century would know about a couple of people being stabbed in Germany? I couldn't tell you about the politics in 17th century Germany because it's not my area of expertise (although of course their religious tensions were pretty high at the time!), but rest assured it wouldn't have been sunshine and light!

Certain people on this thread will also be too stupid (retards, in their language) to understand that that doesn't mean that I therefore support knife weilding nutters wreaking violence and injury in the name of a ridiculous religion.

 

[wingy]

Popish plots were pretty similar... including the predisposition of people to see every event as linked to them, even if the evidence was totally fictitious in certain instances. I know it's an extreme and oblique example, but it shows how events happen over a period of time, just the characters change. How they're represented has startling similarities too, but it consoles people that there's an unreasonable evil enemy you see, and occasionally actual events turn up to reaffirm the totality.

I know some people on this thread only like to think that experts should be listened to when they put themselves up as said expert, but they do show themselves up as embarrassing with their bloodlust to confirm a set of people as evil in comparison to their good. Communication also allows people to know about random attacks across the globe nowadays. You reckon the average Coventrian of the 17th century would know about a couple of people being stabbed in Germany? I couldn't tell you about the politics in 17th century Germany because it's not my area of expertise (although of course their religious tensions were pretty high at the time!), but rest assured it wouldn't have been sunshine and light!

Certain people on this thread will also be too stupid (retards, in their language) to understand that that doesn't mean that I therefore support knife weilding nutters wreaking violence and injury in the name of a ridiculous religion.

Nice to see you contributing again!

 

[Grendel]

Edited for @Harry Krishner

well they didn’t did they. The Ira were the experts at that.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Perhaps we could have a little bet?

I'll stick my neck out and say there's a 90% + chance of the bloke being Muslim.

For those of us old enough to remember, there was a time when knife attacks in public places, vehicular attacks, and suicide bombings were unknown.

These arrived with the Religion of Peace.

They arrived with the IRA

 

[Sick Boy]

They arrived with the IRA

Pretty sure a PM was shot dead at some point before that.

 

[Grendel]

Pretty sure a PM was shot dead at some point before that.

Well Spencer Percival in the early 19th century but the systematic attempt to assassinate politicians was at the core of IRA policy

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Pretty sure a PM was shot dead at some point before that.

Sure, but the post was about bombings and vehicular attacks.

 

[Grendel]

Sure, but the post was about bombings and vehicular attacks.

To be fair it said suicide bombings and stabbings - these are more aligned with Islamic methods of terror. Vehicular attacks also I assume means running people over not car bombs.

 

[Sick Boy]

Both the IRA and the Ulster Loyalists also did proxy bombings, which were essentially coerced suicide bombs.

 

[Jamesimus]

well they didn’t did they. The Ira were the experts at that.

They didn’t what? I’m unsure exactly what you are replying to?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

To be fair it said suicide bombings and stabbings - these are more aligned with Islamic methods of terror. Vehicular attacks also I assume means running people over not car bombs.

I'd also suggest the method of attack is not entirely relevant either, as if such an attack didn't work then it'd be done in some other way! I mean, Perceval's less relevant as an example as the bloke who killed him was probably acting off his own bat with his own personal reasons to do so.

 

[Jamesimus]

To be fair it said suicide bombings and stabbings - these are more aligned with Islamic methods of terror. Vehicular attacks also I assume means running people over not car bombs.

Vehicular attacks, like Charlottesville for example.

 

[Grendel]

They didn’t what? I’m unsure exactly what you are replying to?

You edited a post saying the far right started the murder of MPs - they didn’t the Independent Republican Army created that culture on a systematic basis.

 

[Jamesimus]

You edited a post saying the far right started the murder of MPs - they didn’t the Independent Republican Army created that culture on a systematic basis.

I edited referencing the family guy image I posted earlier.

I’m not arsed about “who started it” because i realise these things rarely happen in a vacuum.

 

[Grendel]

I edited referencing the family guy image I posted earlier.

I’m not arsed about “who started it” because i realise these things rarely happen in a vacuum.

I think you probably were which is why you made reference to a far right killing.

I don’t think it’s actually wrong to discuss the growing terror threat generated by Islamic fanatics. Remember that intelligence is now far more sophisticated than before and a lot of potential attacks are quashed before reality.

The real concern is that unlike a lot of radicalised groups it’s younger elements of the Muslim societies who are becoming disenfranchised in the western societies they inhabit so the threat is growing.

 

[Jamesimus]

I think you probably were which is why you made reference to a far right killing.

I don’t think it’s actually wrong to discuss the growing terror threat generated by Islamic fanatics. Remember that intelligence is now far more sophisticated than before and a lot of potential attacks are quashed before reality.

The real concern is that unlike a lot of radicalised groups it’s younger elements of the Muslim societies who are becoming disenfranchised in the western societies they inhabit so the threat is growing.

Not at all. Merely pointing out terror attacks aren’t just an Islam thing, they are a people thing.

It’s not wrong to discuss it at all in a civil and sensible way, whilst simultaneously recognising other equal threats.

Your last paragraph there could apply to numerous demographics / subcultures and groups of people.

I think the language used by people seeing young Muslim lads as “the other” / not British / a potential threat plays into the hands of those trying to radicalise them and is super unhelpful.

 

[Sick Boy]

I'd also suggest the method of attack is not entirely relevant either, as if such an attack didn't work then it'd be done in some other way! I mean, Perceval's less relevant as an example as the bloke who killed him was probably acting off his own bat with his own personal reasons to do so.

The point is that murderous psychos have and always will be in society finding something to try and excuse their actions. It's like the claims that London is the most dangerous it ever has been due to knife crime, when in reality it's probably one of the safest periods in its history.

 

[Harry Krishner]

The IRA generally gave warnings.

 

[SBT]

Gentlemen bombers!

 

[PVA]

You just don't get class and integrity like that these days.

#respect

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

To be fair it said suicide bombings and stabbings - these are more aligned with Islamic methods of terror. Vehicular attacks also I assume means running people over not car bombs.

Variations on a theme, the point being that terror attacks are not a recent phenomenon as the post suggested.