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The whole point of a cycle lane is to encourage people not to use a car, anyway.
 

LastGarrison

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I was sad enough to Google ;)

So 17k out of 53k households (not people) don’t have a car so I make that roughly 30% of households don’t have a car? (Matched your sadness 👀).

I actually wasn’t digging SB out but it just made me laugh as it was posted with such certainty it reminded me of a drunken pub argument.

‘Fuck you mate 62% of Nazis actually loved kittens’.
 

Grendel

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I would guess that London distorts a lot. Also technically I don’t own a car and have only owned one for 4 years in the last 30.

I have a £75 grand car on my drive now but I don’t own one. 😉
tbf whenever I've lived and either studied or worked in a city I haven't owned a car, as it was easier and cheaper to walk to where I needed to be. Even though the students I taught seemed to increasingly get nearly new cars that were better than mine atm:eek: there's a fair number that don't own a car. Not uncommon for people who live and work in a place to be happy to walk and / or get the bus as it's quicker and cheaper. One chap I knew found the cash he saved in insurance, servicing etc. could be spent on taxis and hire cars for if he needed a longer journey.

And that's the kind of model they'd like to push more towards, isn't it.
 

shmmeee

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Everythings built around cars because 90% of the population has one

Yes. That’s the problem. We don’t have the space to rebuild the country around everyone having cars. That’s why you’ve got them littering everywhere making everything look shit and endless traffic jams.
 

shmmeee

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My most controversial take is we should charge for street parking. There’s no reason you should get free public land just cos you decided to buy a car and you haven’t got anywhere to put it. I couldn’t just whack up a portacabin somewhere but we accept people parking things bigger than the average shed on grass verges and pavements and roads.
 

Grendel

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My most controversial take is we should charge for street parking. There’s no reason you should get free public land just cos you decided to buy a car and you haven’t got anywhere to put it. I couldn’t just whack up a portacabin somewhere but we accept people parking things bigger than the average shed on grass verges and pavements and roads.

So poorer people without a drive pay. Great plan.
 

Grendel

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tbf whenever I've lived and either studied or worked in a city I haven't owned a car, as it was easier and cheaper to walk to where I needed to be. Even though the students I taught seemed to increasingly get nearly new cars that were better than mine atm:eek: there's a fair number that don't own a car. Not uncommon for people who live and work in a place to be happy to walk and / or get the bus as it's quicker and cheaper. One chap I knew found the cash he saved in insurance, servicing etc. could be spent on taxis and hire cars for if he needed a longer journey.

And that's the kind of model they'd like to push more towards, isn't it.

Try doing that in remote areas.
 

clint van damme

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My most controversial take is we should charge for street parking. There’s no reason you should get free public land just cos you decided to buy a car and you haven’t got anywhere to put it. I couldn’t just whack up a portacabin somewhere but we accept people parking things bigger than the average shed on grass verges and pavements and roads.

There's a world of difference between parking kerbside on a road and parking on a pavement or a grass verge.
The latter two should carry some sort of Taliban inspired punishment
 

shmmeee

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There's a world of difference between parking kerbside on a road and parking on a pavement or a grass verge.
The latter two should carry some sort of Taliban inspired punishment

There is. But even roadside parking is in reality you getting free public land.

It’s because our country wasn’t built for cars. How many terraced streets have lines of cars down both sides making it essentially a one way road? But we’ll happily buy a house there and expect free parking.

The amount of government subsidy drivers get is ridiculous. If we applied even half of it to active travel and public transport it would be a different world.

Just stuff that we accept as normal but if you dig into it makes no sense. People whine about cycle lanes reducing the width of roads but accept cars (which are getting wider every year) doing the same.

I knew people who used the streets as parking for multiple cars, even people who sold cars and had ten or twenty sat on the road. Trailers parked on the road. mahoosive vans, etc. We just accept it.

We all want to be Americans in a country a fraction of the size.
 

Grendel

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Our country wasn’t built for cars.

This is becoming deranged.
 

clint van damme

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There is. But even roadside parking is in reality you getting free public land.

It’s because our country wasn’t built for cars. How many terraced streets have lines of cars down both sides making it essentially a one way road? But we’ll happily buy a house there and expect free parking.

The amount of government subsidy drivers get is ridiculous. If we applied even half of it to active travel and public transport it would be a different world.

Just stuff that we accept as normal but if you dig into it makes no sense. People whine about cycle lanes reducing the width of roads but accept cars (which are getting wider every year) doing the same.

I knew people who used the streets as parking for multiple cars, even people who sold cars and had ten or twenty sat on the road. Trailers parked on the road. mahoosive vans, etc. We just accept it.

We all want to be Americans in a country a fraction of the size.

I grew up in a street with practically no cars . It's now difficult to get a parking space there.
But when I was growing up, most people in that street worked fairly locally, that's no longer the case.
It's ridiculous to talk about taking punitive measures for car owners when the majority really have no alternative.

Someone who has 10 or 20 sat in a road is not the norm and if something was done to criminalise itI don't think too many would complain.
 

shmmeee

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I grew up in a street with practically no cars . It's now difficult to get a parking space there.
But when I was growing up, most people in that street worked fairly locally, that's no longer the case.
It's ridiculous to talk about taking punitive measures for car owners when the majority really have no alternative.

Someone who has 10 or 20 sat in a road is not the norm and if something was done to criminalise itI don't think too many would complain.

I think each house should come with a parking space or two and you pay via council tax. No loads isn’t the norm but right now there’s nothing stopping you doing it.

The point is we aren’t built for every adult to own a car. And if we actually did things fairly that would be very apparent.

We should be incentivising both no car and smaller cars in cities. Not having people driving round in tank sized SUVs paying the same as someone in a Smart FourTwo.

Weight and size based road tax would be acceptable I guess. Weight especially. Someone’s van or SUV causes was more damage to the roads than a little hatchback.
 

clint van damme

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I think each house should come with a parking space or two and you pay via council tax. No loads isn’t the norm but right now there’s nothing stopping you doing it.

The point is we aren’t built for every adult to own a car. And if we actually did things fairly that would be very apparent.

We should be incentivising both no car and smaller cars in cities. Not having people driving round in tank sized SUVs paying the same as someone in a Smart FourTwo.

Weight and size based road tax would be acceptable I guess. Weight especially. Someone’s van or SUV causes was more damage to the roads than a little hatchback.

While I agree we're not built for every adult to have a car we've also built a society where a lot of households need 2 cars.
Me and the missus have discussed going down to one and it will probably happening the next few years but we've had 2 cars for at least 25 years and this is the first opportunity we've had to even consider it.
 

shmmeee

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While I agree we're not built for every adult to have a car we've also built a society where a lot of households need 2 cars.
Me and the missus have discussed going down to one and it will probably happening the next few years but we've had 2 cars for at least 25 years and this is the first opportunity we've had to even consider it.

Well exactly. We’ve thought we can build a US style society with out of town shopping and poor public transport in a country where the average house has no parking and in many cases isn’t even as wide as one car is long.
 

clint van damme

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Well exactly. We’ve thought we can build a US style society with out of town shopping and poor public transport in a country where the average house has no parking and in many cases isn’t even as wide as one car is long.

Which has been a fuck up, no argument from me on that, but penalising people who've had no other choice but to buy multiple cars in order to adapt sounds like a backwards way of dealing with things.
 

Grendel

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Which has been a fuck up, no argument from me on that, but penalising people who've had no other choice but to buy multiple cars in order to adapt sounds like a backwards way of dealing with things.

The other day the same poster was advocating an open door immigration policy as the country has plenty of open space.

Now it seems New York and LA have more room to park cars than Earlsdon.
 

shmmeee

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Which has been a fuck up, no argument from me on that, but penalising people who've had no other choice but to buy multiple cars in order to adapt sounds like a backwards way of dealing with things.

So well just penalise those who have adapted?

Why should I pay more road tax/repair bills to subsidise people with huge cars? Why should I pay more council tax because I’ve got a house with off street parking and subsidise those using public land?

I did say it was my most controversial opinion!
 

Grendel

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So well just penalise those who have adapted?

Why should I pay more road tax/repair bills to subsidise people with huge cars? Why should I pay more council tax because I’ve got a house with off street parking and subsidise those using public land?

I did say it was my most controversial opinion!

Oh it’s chip on shoulder politics - fair enough
 

clint van damme

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So well just penalise those who have adapted?

Why should I pay more road tax/repair bills to subsidise people with huge cars? Why should I pay more council tax because I’ve got a house with off street parking and subsidise those using public land?

I did say it was my most controversial opinion!

Who are the people who've adapted?
Im not sure a lot of people have. Some one who now works from home has hardly adapted, theyve just had new working practices presented to them by events of the last few years which may have allowed them to ditch the/a car.

I'm not a fan of huge cars, certainly not in urban areas, but one of the biggest employers in the region manufactures what I can consider huge cars so they do have some positive impact.
 

nicksar

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We live in a village between Rugby & Coventry,we have a Pub but no shops, nearest Co-op 2.5 miles away and 3.5 miles away in the other direction.The bus service is poor in all honesty... can't survive without a car.
My Wife still works four days a week (she's five years younger than me)...last time the car was off the road for a day she got a taxi to and from work it cost her £34 for the day,no car and a taxi every working day would cost just north of £7K a year.
I get the frustration with on street parking (and pavement parking) in Towns and Cities but I don't see it as something I'm subsidising,off the top of my head I can think of a few streets in Rugby with no off road parking and the houses are very expensive to buy £600K +.
 
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shmmeee

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Who are the people who've adapted?
Im not sure a lot of people have. Some one who now works from home has hardly adapted, theyve just had new working practices presented to them by events of the last few years which may have allowed them to ditch the/a car.

I'm not a fan of huge cars, certainly not in urban areas, but one of the biggest employers in the region manufactures what I can consider huge cars so they do have some positive impact.

More people who aren’t driving a five year old to school in an SUV that could move troops in Afghanistan.
 

Evo1883

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Video doesn't include tile hill ( crime down as the ward is split In 2 and mixed with nice areas , canley (same ) and wood end .

The city is generally pretty rough and shitty
 

Grendel

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Video doesn't include tile hill ( crime down as the ward is split In 2 and mixed with nice areas , canley (same ) and wood end .

The city is generally pretty rough and shitty

The guy should go into the Coventry Hill Hotel in Allesley - hell on earth in the sleepiest part of the city
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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My most controversial take is we should charge for street parking. There’s no reason you should get free public land just cos you decided to buy a car and you haven’t got anywhere to put it. I couldn’t just whack up a portacabin somewhere but we accept people parking things bigger than the average shed on grass verges and pavements and roads.
Wouldn't this be done just by painting double yellows?

Have to change the rules allowing more people to build drives on their front gardens, which will have a knock-on effect with drainage. Also a lot of houses that had parking provision are unsuitable in the modern world. Garages built down the side of a house that aren't wide enough for a modern car (and this is true of new build who build them to tick a box) and others which were built with entries round the back but the fucked up land ownership of them mean most are now in a state of disrepair. And also far too narrow.
 
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We live in a village between Rugby & Coventry,we have a Pub but no shops, nearest Co-op 2.5 miles away and 3.5 miles away in the other direction.The bus service is poor in all honesty... can't survive without a car.
I call Church Lawford ;)
 

eyesee

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Wouldn't this be done just by painting double yellows?

Have to change the rules allowing more people to build drives on their front gardens, which will have a knock-on effect with drainage. Also a lot of houses that had parking provision are unsuitable in the modern world. Garages built down the side of a house that aren't wide enough for a modern car (and this is true of new build who build them to tick a box) and others which were built with entries round the back but the fucked up land ownership of them mean most are now in a state of disrepair. And also far too narrow.
i think if you pay council tax (owner or tenant of a house), and pay road tax (so own or lease a car) the space outside your house should be designated your parking space. so people with 2 or more cars cannot park outside your house. they need to identify which spaces are free, and use those.
there would literally be lines drawn on the kerb to show the different parking areas.

i wfh most of the time now, and don't use my car really unless i need to. so it's not that big a problem for me. but there's 2 houses in my road that have 6 cars each. yep, 6, and neither of them have a drive to put any of them on. it's fucking ridiculous.
 

eyesee

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in japan you can't have a car unless you can demonstrate you have somewhere to keep it.
i've been to japan, and needless to say, they don't have cars parked all over the roads and kerbs etc.
add some decent public transport to that policy, and i'm sure things would improve massively.
 

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