USSR invades Ukraine. (42 Viewers)

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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What a mature argument Tony. I can see why you have such gravitas on this forum. You certainly get the respect you deserve.
Your lack of self-awareness is staggering. Do you really think most of what you say on here has gravitas? It's contrarian, obfuscating, deflecting whataboutism that invariably ends up being massively wrong, but your own ego refuses to let you see it.

For me, it's a weird fascination about what nonsense you're going to spout next and also as a barometer. Do I disagree with Grendel? I do. Good, that probably means I'm right.
 
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skyblueelephant76

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It's not shocking at all when you realise that Russia has nuclear weapons and is threatening to use them.

Ukraine has no such weapons, and therefore canot escalate the conflict without supplies of long-range weapons from NATO AND permission to use them in an offensive action rather than a defensive action.
Once that permission is granted and the weapons are used we will be entering a completely different phase of the "conflict"

In short we are potentially on a fast road to WW3
I assume you know why Ukraine has no nuclear weapons and the guarantees that were made for them giving them up?
 

Skybluekyle

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I assume you know why Ukraine has no nuclear weapons and the guarantees that were made for them giving them up?
I've said "Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances" so many times the words have lost all meaning!

(Grendel arrives)

Grendel: We’ve got to do the “Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances” argument again, Kyle

Me: But we already did it. It took seven hours, but we did it. It’s done!

Grendel: But we've got to do it from different semantical angles. Again and again, again and again and again

(Simpsons quote inspired)
 

skybluetony176

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I see the man who expected Kyiv to fall in a matter of days recons Europe would be defenceless against Russia.

Just clear that up I’m talking about Putin on this occasion not Lord Eeyore, AKA pound shop Tucker Carlson, AKA Grendull.
 

PVA

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It's not shocking at all when you realise that Russia has nuclear weapons and is threatening to use them.

Ukraine has no such weapons, and therefore canot escalate the conflict without supplies of long-range weapons from NATO AND permission to use them in an offensive action rather than a defensive action.
Once that permission is granted and the weapons are used we will be entering a completely different phase of the "conflict"

In short we are potentially on a fast road to WW3

Oh look, Putin has already backed down from yet another supposed red line.


 

Grendel

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Your lack of self-awareness is staggering. Do you really think most of what you say on here has gravitas? It's contrarian, obfuscating, deflecting whataboutism that invariably ends up being massively wrong, but your own ego refuses to let you see it.

For me, it's a weird fascination about what nonsense you're going to spout next and also as a barometer. Do I disagree with Grendel? I do. Good, that probably means I'm right.

With respect you been dribbling on for the last few days asking me would there be peace if Putin withdraw his troops.

It’s a point so irrelevant and stupid it’s not worth an answer. What next - if Santa Claus and the tooth fairy were real would the world be a cuter place?

The vast majority on here stated Putin was ill at the start and would soon be dead - that went well

Sanctions would bring Russia to its knees - well that went well

The military hardware supplied the west will bring down the Russians - well it hasn’t

Russia will run out of arms and ammunition - nope

Someone who actually fought in a war has been educated by the historians and armchair generals presiding over this subject.

Russia aren’t going to evacuate. They are not retreating.

The US care not about Ukraine.

What I’d like to ask you is what will victory look like now in Ukraine and how and when will it be achieved?
 

fatso

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Oh look, Putin has already backed down from yet another supposed red line.



🤣🤣🤣 you clown, did you actually read that? 🤣🤣🤣

"Russian forces will be able to continue gradual advances indefinitely, prevent Ukraine from conducting successful operationally significant counteroffensive operations, and win a war of attrition"

Putin knows this war is won.
 

PVA

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🤣🤣🤣 you clown, did you actually read that? 🤣🤣🤣

"Russian forces will be able to continue gradual advances indefinitely, prevent Ukraine from conducting successful operationally significant counteroffensive operations, and win a war of attrition"

Putin knows this war is won.

Are you OK?

You said strikes on Russian land would cross a red line. Putin then comes out and says oh actually no it doesn't cross a red line.

And as for your comment, Putin thought the war would be won in 3 days.

What do you get out of swallowing Russian propaganda?

Just remembered you were parroting convicted paedophile and known Russian shill Scott Ritter not long ago.
 

fatso

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Are you OK?

You said strikes on Russian land would cross a red line. Putin then comes out and says oh actually no it doesn't cross a red line.

And as for your comment, Putin thought the war would be won in 3 days.

What do you get out of swallowing Russian propaganda?

Just remembered you were parroting convicted paedophile and known Russian shill Scott Ritter not long ago.
It's pointless me trying to argue with stupid.

Just sit tight and wait and see what pans out. There's only going to be one of two outcomes here. Either the west comes to their senses and we have a negotiated settlement where Russia gains the territory that it wants, along with some kind of agreement that the rest of Ukraine doesn't join NATO, or we continue to arm Ukraine with even more deadly weapons that sees the relentless March to WW3.

There's no possibility of Putin saying fuck this you guys have beaten me I'm fucking off home with my tail between my legs.
 

PVA

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Your just embarrassing yourself.

*You're the one that watches YouTube videos by a convicted paedophile 🤷🏻‍♂️

The fact is since March 2022 Russia has a net loss of 30% territory for almost 500k casualties. Putin does not 'know the war is won'.
 

fatso

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*You're the one that watches YouTube videos by a convicted paedophile 🤷🏻‍♂️

The fact is since March 2022 Russia has a net loss of 30% territory for almost 500k casualties. Putin does not 'know the war is won'.
You appear to have a strange fetish for paedophiles today. Is there something you need to say?
 

Grendel

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You appear to have a strange fetish for paedophiles today. Is there something you need to say?

He used to make jokes about me and point at a which part of the doll was I touched on.

As I’ve experienced abuse and he has never apologised he can fuck off
 

fatso

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I'll say it again, you're the only one here watching his videos.
I posted a link to 1 interview where he was being interviewed.

You've appear to have done the classic
"if you don't like the message, discredit the messenger"

You've now gone off topic to attack a former USA intelligence guy for his previous conviction.

Whatever you think of him as a human being is irrelevant to the Intel he has as a former USA agent.

If you don't want to hear the facts from this guy, there are countless other expert sources saying exactly the same, do you want me to post links to them all????
Are you then going to spend all day trying to discredit them too ????

Your fighting a losing battle (much like Ukraine) but you carry on son, or you could sit tight and watch the inevitable pan out.
 

fatso

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Fucking hell, the state of that. Now actively defending sex offenders.
You really are pathetic.
You have no rational argument that's on topic, you appear to live in your own little dream world, that response from you is akin to a child sticking his tongue out.
Your embarrassing yourself.
 

Grendel

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Fucking hell, the state of that. Now actively defending sex offenders.

Is it worse than making jokes about sex offence victims?
 

PVA

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You really are pathetic.
You have no rational argument that's on topic, you appear to live in your own little dream world, that response from you is akin to a child sticking his tongue out.
Your embarrassing yourself.

I'm sorry I just don't put much stock in the opinion of paedophiles, you do, that's your perogative.
 

fatso

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I'm sorry I just don't put much stock in the opinion of paedophiles, you do, that's your perogative.
OK, it's clear that you don't have the mental capacity to understand what I've said so I'm leaving this conversation now as I'm not prepared to continue engaging with someone of your stupidity.

Feel free to post something childish back. As I know you'll feel an overwhelming compulsion to have the last word.
So go ahead, knock yourself out.
 

PVA

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OK, it's clear that you don't have the mental capacity to understand what I've said so I'm leaving this conversation now as I'm not prepared to continue engaging with someone of your stupidity.

No, the difference is I have the mental capacity to realise that taking the opinion of someone who exposes themselves to 15 year olds I'd not a good idea. You apparently don't.


Anyway, moving on from that freak Ritter.

It seems that Ukrainian drones are able to strike deep into Russian territory with no air defenses at Russian airbases, so I'm not sure how they're going to stop the ATACMS.


 

PVA

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I have a feeling this won’t get a response.

Dog Sniff GIF by WoofWaggers
 

PVA

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*spend years abusing people on here*

*cry about freedom of speech (in particular when defending someone banned for racism)*

*someone makes a joke he doesn't like*

*start crying*


Funny.
 

Grendel

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*spend years abusing people on here*

*cry about freedom of speech (in particular when defending someone banned for racism)*

*someone makes a joke he doesn't like*

*start crying*


Funny.

I just find it strange that someone thinks child sex abuse is a joke and then confronts a poster for liking someone who has indulged in sexual activity with minors
 

PVA

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I think actual convicted paedophiles are worse than jokes from one of the most popular TV shows in the world, yes. Sorry if that's a controversial opinion.

This a fucking ridiculous argument. Fuck this.
 

Grendel

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I think actual convicted paedophiles are worse than jokes from one of the most popular TV shows in the world, yes. Sorry if that's a controversial opinion.

This a fucking ridiculous argument. Fuck this.

I don’t find it funny
 

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