Viktor Moving on (61 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

Luton?

Yeah. I don't claim to be ITK and I'm definitely not but I've put 2 snippets on here recently, one was Rudoni was signing, which was back in April and the other was that Sheaf wants away but only if the right opportunity arises and a bids has been turned down.
Im only summising it was the player who turned it down. I wish I'd found.

 

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[biggymania]

The source for this isn’t credible and notably hasn’t been picked up by anyone credible, so I don’t think there’s any new information here.

 

[skybluecam]

Only financial details remain... such as agreeing a fee, wages, signing on fee, image rights...

Exactly. What is there to a deal other than financial details!

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Yeah. I don't claim to be ITK and I'm definitely not but I've put 2 snippets on here recently, one was Rudoni was signing, which was back in April and the other was that Sheaf wants away but only if the right opportunity arises and a bids has been turned down.
Im only summising it was the player who turned it down. I wish I'd found.

You're a very honest poster and I don't believe you would make something up for the sake of clout, but it's all a bit convenient isn't it? I'm afraid I just don't buy that there's been a rejected bid for 15 million outright. A single figure bid, maybe, but the same price as Hamer? Even for a club with parachute payment budget - it seems extremely unlikely. If it is the case however, we should be taking it and investing it into better players, regardless of if the player in his own head thinks he's too good for a Championship club. That's a lot of money that could make us much stronger.

 

[clint van damme]

You're a very honest poster and I don't believe you would make something up for the sake of clout, but it's all a bit convenient isn't it? I'm afraid I just don't buy that there's been a rejected bid for 15 million outright. A single figure bid, maybe, but the same price as Hamer? Even for a club with parachute payment budget - it seems extremely unlikely. If it is the case however, we should be taking it and investing it into better players, regardless of if the player in his own head thinks he's too good for a Championship club. That's a lot of money that could make us much stronger.

It definitely happened. I said at the time the source for this was more reliable than the person who told me about Rudoni but if people are sceptical that's fine.

That's why I think the player rejected it because if he was going I'm fairly sure the club would have taken the money.
He wants a move, but not just any move.
I agree we could do a lot with that money and the impact wouldn't have been the same as losing vik or gus.

 

[iflynno]

 

[rexo87]

That would be great. But doesnt seem like an overly reliable source

 

[Deleted member 162]

 

[skyblu3sk]

I don't like the line "below the minimum release fee" more money!!!

 

[skyblueelephant76]

I don't like the line "below the minimum release fee" more money!!!

But with addons above that amount that we'd continue to get a cut from

 

[biggymania]

Sporting have and do sell below release fees, but this website and the tweet that echoed it are just blurting out things that are plausible… there’s no underlying new information here.

We know that Arsenal were interested and have scouted Vik (multiple credible outlets reported that), we know his release clause is 100M and we know Sporting regularly sell underneath those clause values.

Portugal is a country with maybe 3 top teams so the media will jump all over any scrap… they’re not running this at all. Doesn’t mean it won’t still happen but there’s no new information just clickbait.

 

[Diogenes]

Unless there's competition I can't see them holding out for the release fee.

Don't be surprised if he moves for anywhere between 40-80 million.

My prediction is about 60.

 

[Brylowes]

Edit: forgive me if I’ve misunderstood you. I’ve had a few after the England game…

Nobody will blame you for that.

 

[The watchmaker]

Nobody will blame you for that.

I'm just impressed he waited til 'after'.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Unless there's competition I can't see them holding out for the release fee.

Don't be surprised if he moves for anywhere between 40-80 million.

My prediction is about 60.

He's on a 5 year contract and he's about to play Champions League football for them, they can't be under that much pressure to sell when there is a chance his stock will go even higher.

 

[The watchmaker]

Unless there's competition I can't see them holding out for the release fee.

Don't be surprised if he moves for anywhere between 40-80 million.

My prediction is about 60.

I wouldn't be that stunned if he went for more than the release fee. Release fee likely requires the money up front - I suspect e.g. Arsenal would want to structure it for P&S.

 

[StrettoBoy]

If this happens quickly we could use our cut of the deal to gazump Nottingham Forest for Stamenic.

 

[Trueskyblue20]

If this happens quickly we could use our cut of the deal to gazump Nottingham Forest for Stamenic.

Fuck Stamenic, I’ve never wanted him and he’s really shit.


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[StrettoBoy]

Fuck Stamenic, I’ve never wanted him and he’s really shit.


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Then you can rest contentedly with the thought that I was only joking and he's not coming to us.

 

[torchomatic]

It definitely happened. I said at the time the source for this was more reliable than the person who told me about Rudoni but if people are sceptical that's fine.

That's why I think the player rejected it because if he was going I'm fairly sure the club would have taken the money.
He wants a move, but not just any move.
I agree we could do a lot with that money and the impact wouldn't have been the same as losing vik or gus.

I haven't got the FA Cup Semi-Final programme to hand but it was startling how obvious he wants a move in the interview with Sheaf. I'm not surprised he turned down Luton, I guess he wants to be in the PL this coming season. For what it's worth I think Luton will be promoted again this year. They're a strong side.

 

[biggymania]

He's on a 5 year contract and he's about to play Champions League football for them, they can't be under that much pressure to sell when there is a chance his stock will go even higher.

Their model is to sell players on to leagues / clubs with bigger budgets, so they're not under pressure per se but it is exactly what they aim to do.

Vik had just about the best season possible last year so there’s a pretty decent chance he won't better it this season… Champions League success of course could change things but it is more likely they don't make it very far. He also would need to match or better his overall total which is 43 goals and 14 assists for Sporting... an incredible season! Therefore there's a pretty strong argument that now is at peak valuation... but the difficulty is how many teams have the budget and the need for a striker.

 

[The watchmaker]

Their model is to sell players on to leagues / clubs with bigger budgets, so they're not under pressure per se but it is exactly what they aim to do.

Vik had just about the best season possible last year so there’s a pretty decent chance he won't better it this season… Champions League success of course could change things but it is more likely they don't make it very far. He also would need to match or better his overall total which is 43 goals and 14 assists for Sporting... an incredible season! Therefore there's a pretty strong argument that now is at peak valuation... but the difficulty is how many teams have the budget and the need for a striker.

That might have been their model but they are top dogs in Portugal now and in the CL. That's going to change a lot, eg ambitions, players they can attract and not least of all budgets. If you are all about selling players, staying in and going deep in the CL can add value to all your players along with TV/prize money. Not saying he won't be off but if they ain't offered what they think he is worth then he won't be going anywhere.

 

[SwanLane]

No doubt Sporting would consider dropping below their self imposed minimum valuation. The gap between this valuation and what they paid was so large that unless Vik had a storming start, they’d always have had to consider dropping the valuation if they wanted to cash in. Sounds like they’ve done it before.

At €100m, there’s not too many clubs in the market. But if they drop to say €60m, quite a few clubs potentially come into range. And there’s not many prime-age strikers about. That in itself would drive the price back up. Plus Sporting don’t need to sell as has been said.

I’d be really surprised if he was sold for significantly less than the release clause value.

 

[biggymania]

That might have been their model but they are top dogs in Portugal now and in the CL. That's going to change a lot, eg ambitions, players they can attract and not least of all budgets. If you are all about selling players, staying in and going deep in the CL can add value to all your players along with TV/prize money. Not saying he won't be off but if they ain't offered what they think he is worth then he won't be going anywhere.

Well, I think like us they are a selling club - just on a very different level. So they will look to sell him on for a profit and there's only a few years of the contract where they can do that, unless they tie him down again - but he'll be 27 next year which might limit his forward potential a bit. His game style is so physical and athletic that he likely has less peak years in him than say Harry Kane who moved for a huge fee at... what 29? I don't see that size of move happening for Viktor at that age.

They are champions yes, Benfica still have a lot of money and ambition and there is also Porto to contend with. There's no guarantees they will have the same dominant season domestically nor that Gyokeres will have the same insane G+A performance he did last season.

For him to increase his valuation Sporting has to have have a pretty deep CL run and he hast to put in great performances in those games. That's quite a big ask.

 

[DrPoolittle]

Italian press says that Lisbon will accept £42 million for Gyokeres.

Another Arsenal linked page says that Arsenal won’t meet the release clause.

 

[Trueskyblue20]

Lots of noise about an agreed deal with Arsenal today. Hearing different figures ranging from 65-75m.


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[TomRad85]

Lots of noise about an agreed deal with Arsenal today. Hearing different figures ranging from 65-75m.


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Hope so. Hoping Gus pisses off and we get another couple of million too.

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[rexo87]

Likely to go for around 70-75m in my opinion. Probably means we’d end up with between 5-6m

 

[steve101]

He is just the type of player that Arsenal need. Would be great to see him against Premier league defences.

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

It’s only about £6m isn’t it? Would it make that much difference?

I agree, it sounds like a lot but what does £6 mil actually get you these days in football? One quality midfielder or forward? Maybe 2 unproven players with potential and a bit of loose change?

I don’t think it’ll change our transfer plans much tbh, maybe it’ll allow us to get that one luxury player we weren’t expecting to bid for previously but I can’t see us bringing in multiple extra players just because of Vik moving on. I obviously hope we spend a lot but I can’t see it tbh.

 

[SkyblueTexan]

Lots of noise about an agreed deal with Arsenal today. Hearing different figures ranging from 65-75m.


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Was hoping the fee would be higher.

 

[eyesee]

...Would be great to see him against Premier league defences.

don't start me off again......

 

[biggymania]

Would love to see this move happen both for the kickback we’d get and to see if Gyok can take his game up another level but none of these reports are credible.

Remember how chatty Fabrizio Romano was about Gyokeres last year? He hasn’t mentioned him in weeks which tells you there isn’t anything happening yet.

 

[Senior Vick from Alicante]

It definitely happened. I said at the time the source for this was more reliable than the person who told me about Rudoni but if people are sceptical that's fine.

That's why I think the player rejected it because if he was going I'm fairly sure the club would have taken the money.
He wants a move, but not just any move.
I agree we could do a lot with that money and the impact wouldn't have been the same as losing vik or gus.

The story I have heard which comes from a Luton Town sponsor is that they offered 8 million for Sheaf and both the player and the club turned it down. That was last season by the way so doubt he's changed his mind but obviously I don't know his intentions but @Saddlebrains said he would only move for a better club and will stay unless any potential buyer meets the clubs valuation.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Lots of noise about an agreed deal with Arsenal today. Hearing different figures ranging from 65-75m.


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They must have a great scouting system at Arsenal, they could've had Viktor Gyokeres from us for around £25m Sporting Lisbon could see his potential. They obviously have money to burn.