Do you want to discuss boring politics? (190 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Beer was 10p a pint when I was a lad, not £6 plus. Should people today feel disadvantaged? It’s the way things have panned out.

‘I’m alright Jack’ thinking then.

 

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[MalcSB]

Many people in those days scrimped and saved to buy a house so that they had something tangible to leave to their heirs. Who now criticise the process,

 

[MalcSB]

‘I’m alright Jack’ thinking then.

I didn’t say that, I was asking if people today should feel disadvantaged because beer has gone up in price.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Many people in those days scrimped and saved to buy a house so that they had something tangible to leave to their heirs. Who now criticise the process,

You speak as though my wife and I didn’t scrimp and save to pay a deposit about 10 times the value of the house my grandparents bought.

 

[Grendel]

Many people in those days scrimped and saved to buy a house so that they had something tangible to leave to their heirs. Who now criticise the process,

He even seems to resent his own grandparents - it’s tragic really

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Beer was 10p a pint when I was a lad, not £6 plus. Should people today feel disadvantaged?

Yep!

 

[PVA]

Boomers have had it so tough

 

[Grendel]

You speak as though my wife and I didn’t scrimp and save to pay a deposit about 10 times the value of the house my grandparents bought.

Buy a cheaper house in a poorer area then and do it up

 

[MalcSB]

Actually, fuck it.

I AM alright Jack. Do you know why? Because I worked bloody hard in a stressful job, working 50% hours on top of my contract unpaid, climbing back up the ladder after three redundancies and finally retiring at 67, paying shed loads of tax along the way.

And I’ve just decided I am not ashamed of that.

 

[MalcSB]

He even seems to resent his own grandparents - it’s tragic really

It is indeed.

 

[MalcSB]

Boomers have had it so tough

The politics of envy is never far from a socialist’s heart.

 

[PVA]

Actually, fuck it.

I AM alright Jack. Do you know why? Because I worked bloody hard in a stressful job, working 50% hours on top of my contract unpaid, climbing back up the ladder after three redundancies and finally retiring at 67, paying shed loads of tax along the way.

And I’ve just decided I am not ashamed of that.

There it is.

Young people just need to work hard.

Boomers gonna boom.

 

[Grendel]

Actually, fuck it.

I AM alright Jack. Do you know why? Because I worked bloody hard in a stressful job, working 50% hours on top of my contract unpaid, climbing back up the ladder after three redundancies and finally retiring at 67, paying shed loads of tax along the way.

And I’ve just decided I am not ashamed of that.

Yep I’m 59 and my parents never even owned a house.

My first house was a rather grim flat which I was paying over 50% of my income on a 15% interest and I ended up £5 grand (15% of its value) in negative equity. I had two jobs to pay the mortgage.

The victim mentality is pathetic

 

[PVA]

The politics of envy is never far from a socialist’s heart.

Despite your repeated attempts in this thread to boast I am not envious or jealous.

 

[Grendel]

There it is.

Young people just need to work hard.

Boomers gonna boom.

Everyone has to work hard - unless of course they are given a seat on the board at their parents business and benefit from selective education

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Actually, fuck it.

I AM alright Jack. Do you know why? Because I worked bloody hard in a stressful job, working 50% hours on top of my contract unpaid, climbing back up the ladder after three redundancies and finally retiring at 67, paying shed loads of tax along the way.

And I’ve just decided I am not ashamed of that.

And you speak as though the people here don’t work hard currently. Nobody is trying to invalidate the life’s work of past generations.

But it’s a well accepted reality that my generation is the first one to find itself worse off economically than the one before.

 

[Grendel]

Despite your repeated attempts in this thread to boast I am not envious or jealous.

How is he boasting?

 

[MalcSB]

There it is.

Young people just need to work hard.

Boomers gonna boom.

You have got it in one.

 

[PVA]

Everyone has to work hard - unless of course they are given a seat on the board at their parents business and benefit from selective education

Good for them.

 

[MalcSB]

Despite your repeated attempts in this thread to boast I am not envious or jealous.

Point me to where I have boasted, please.

 

[Grendel]

You have got it in one.

I would have a little spin in my £78,000 Mercedes but sadly i have had a couple of drinks so ill stay at home and gloat

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He even seems to resent his own grandparents - it’s tragic really

You couldn’t be more wrong. Pretty offensive statement that.

 

[SIR ERNIE]

I think by the time most of us get there the state pension won't exist.

Don't worry, a couple of decades of socialism will ensure you're ok.

 

[Grendel]

You couldn’t be more wrong. Pretty offensive statement that.

You should perhaps look how resentful and offensive as well as bitter and jealous you actually come across.

Perhaps rather than whine about what you haven’t got write a gratuity list as to what you have and some of this burning resentment may be released

 

[MalcSB]

And you speak as though the people here don’t work hard currently. Nobody is trying to invalidate the life’s work of past generations.

But it’s a well accepted reality that my generation is the first one to find itself worse off economically than the one before.

I’m pointing out that I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth.

 

[Grendel]

I’m pointing out that I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth, or up my nose.

Or like him was afforded the opportunity of a private education

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Well tis thread is going a bit weird for a change

 

[SIR ERNIE]

I’m pointing out that I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth.

Me neither, lived on a council estate up to the age of 11, went to Grammar School. Started my own business at 32 and done rather well since then.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I’m pointing out that I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth.

Nobody said you were. Nor that I loathe my grandparents.

However, the example of their house value is just a striking one that shows how house prices have risen much further than inflation with big consequences for people renting and buying today.

 

[Grendel]

Nobody said you were. Nor that I loathe my grandparents.

However, the example of their house value is just a striking one that shows how house prices have risen much further than inflation with big consequences for people renting and buying today.

They still will and when you are old your property will be worth millions. Will you be giving it to your offspring or the homeless centre up the road.

I wonder

 

[fernandopartridge]

Actually, fuck it.

I AM alright Jack. Do you know why? Because I worked bloody hard in a stressful job, working 50% hours on top of my contract unpaid, climbing back up the ladder after three redundancies and finally retiring at 67, paying shed loads of tax along the way.

And I’ve just decided I am not ashamed of that.

People work hard today and pay tax the same as you did, you doing unpaid work is not virtuous and you're hardly unique in that

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Or like him was afforded the opportunity of a private education

I paid toward my own fees and then paid back a fair bit once I started earning. Not that I actually had a say in where I went to school mind you

 

[SIR ERNIE]

Genuinely surprised at the pessimism on here. You're about to get the government you want with effectively no opposition. It's likely they will govern for at least a decade.
Why are you not looking forward with unbridled optimism?
Is it because you know that socialism wont significantly improve your life?

 

[Grendel]

I paid toward my own fees and then paid back a fair bit once I started earning. Not that I actually had a say in where I went to school mind you

I refused to go to Bablake when I passed my 11 plus. You must have had a good job at 11 to contribute

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Genuinely surprised at the pessimism on here. You're about to get the government you want with effectively no opposition. It's likely they will government for at least a decade.
Why are you not looking forward with unbridled optimism?
Is it because you know that socialism wont significantly improve your life?

The thing is Ernie, nobody except shmmeee and PVA are getting the government they really want.